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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 12:16 PM
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I wish someone would do a US version of Top Gear. IMO, all the car shows on sat/sun mornings are pretty weak.
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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 12:27 PM
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QUOTE]Shame on RMR. Did you know that is an evo VII with evo VIII body work. The USDM and euro spec cars are different FYI. I'm sure ACD helped, but also rhy's driving Just look at the headlights. Non DOT reflectors on the RMR's car.[/ QUOTE]

Why would they bother to go through all the trouble of putting on a Vlll body kit on a Vll? They could just get a Euro-spec Vlll, or they could have just swapped out the lights.
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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 03:24 PM
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why does the US rally car have the same lights as the RMR one?
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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 03:47 PM
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The evo's were WEAK!

WHy was there a VII even allowed? Why not a full race Skyline r34 if they are going to allow that. I was pissed that the s2k beat the evo's by a significant margin. The EVO's didn't even have decent suspension stuff.

Of course a nearly stock evo can look good against those other cars that had mucho dinero in them. I want to see an EVO with mucho dinero in it STOMP the comp.

And how did conebasher come in ahead of the vishnu? Only because it out accelerated in the top end because of all that horsepower making it complete the course faster. In all the other tests the vishnu beat the wrx. And you know cobb has unlimited budget and r&d in the conebasher, not to mention hours of track time. The evo's did well, but there should have been one there that raped everything else.

Mad props on the comptech s2k though. It is a beast!
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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 04:01 PM
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why does the US rally car have the same lights as the RMR one?
That Evo started it's life out as an Evo VII, but because it is running in an unlimited class the car has been totaly taken apart and rebuilt not sharing very much with is street version. So it really doesn't matter whether or not that SCCA car was an Evo VII or VIII, in the end it would end up being just the way it is now.
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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 04:14 PM
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I watched the program today and the EVO did a pretty good job. You just need to take a look at the $ tied up in the S2000 and the Cobb Subaru. You might also want to consider that the drivers of the cars did pretty good as well.
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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 04:36 PM
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Did anyone manage to record it so it can be imported to the computer? It would be great to be able to see it... didn't know they even did the test until I saw it in the magazine today.
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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 05:11 PM
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My take on the program is that the Vishnu showing was very good given the limited modification to the stock car.

For the record what were the specific mods on the RMR and Vishnu cars? (The magazine is not in the stores yet....)

Also the program was a good place to get a feel for the sound of the respective exhaust system offerings. While comparison is not really possible given we don't know where the recordings were taken, the RMR system seemed more aggressive than the Vishnu.

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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 05:15 PM
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What's to ***** about? It's not like Shiv's car came in last. There were a number of other reputable tuners there with other cars that no one is mentioning. Bottom line is that for the money, Vishnu placed exceptionally well. I am more than satisfied with their showing.

I see no relevance to real world street driving in a demonstration of tuner showcase vehicles with modifications costing more than the base price of the vehicles themselves. Are you gonna buy one? Didn't think so. So the bragging rights would never be yours anyway.

One last call from earth, there are a number of cars available, that with similar budgets would smoke anything that came that show. Give John Lingenfelter your LS1 Camaro and 50K and see what happens.
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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 05:55 PM
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What's to ***** about? It's not like Shiv's car came in last. There were a number of other reputable tuners there with other cars that no one is mentioning. Bottom line is that for the money, Vishnu placed exceptionally well. I am more than satisfied with their showing.

I see no relevance to real world street driving in a demonstration of tuner showcase vehicles with modifications costing more than the base price of the vehicles themselves. Are you gonna buy one? Didn't think so. So the bragging rights would never be yours anyway.

One last call from earth, there are a number of cars available, that with similar budgets would smoke anything that came that show. Give John Lingenfelter your LS1 Camaro and 50K and see what happens.
I've seen what Lingenfelter did to a Vette and it is amazing.

How many cars were in the competition? I do see mention of how good or bad the Evos did but I am curious if there were a lot of cars there or a small group.
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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 06:10 PM
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I've seen what Lingenfelter did to a Vette and it is amazing.

How many cars were in the competition? I do see mention of how good or bad the Evos did but I am curious if there were a lot of cars there or a small group.
There was something like 18.
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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 06:19 PM
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The fact that our stage 1 Evo did so well on approx $2500 worth of mods(minus wheels) we think was pretty good. We also had 2 weeks total to get the car together as this test was done 3 months ago. We had originally submitted our stage 2 WRX as featured in last months Sport Compact Car, but decided after we purchased our Evo to try to make it to the Car and Driver test with it instead. Car and Driver was happy to include it as at that time there were 2 other WRX entries (who didn't show) already in the tuner shootout. Next time we will be ready with a little more extreme version of the Evo. Take care guys.

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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 06:28 PM
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Another thing to take in to consideration is that the RMR EVO8 is not a evo 8 its a EVO 7 converted to 8 so mabe the extra drive train helped out a bit but I think both cars are bad *** and both companys know what the hell they are doing
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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 08:05 PM
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Hey Brett why does Car and Driver say your stage 1 kit cost $1995 Is that not the same stage 1? Boost control feature, Cam gears installed? Or was the price not yet determined?

Anyways, the race consist of 130mph and then 0mph for total time determined by the winner not a set distance from start to finish like in a real race. Perhaps if there was a starting line to finish line the evo would of won?
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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 10:52 PM
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Hey Brett why does Car and Driver say your stage 1 kit cost $1995 Is that not the same stage 1? Boost control feature, Cam gears installed? Or was the price not yet determined?
I can answer that. There were no cam gears installed in the car for the C&D test. More accurately, the car was running a normal pre-boost control Stage 0 w/ downpipe. Stage 0+, I guess, as described by SCC in their EVO vs. Germany test.

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