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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 07:22 PM
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i understand engineers are smart and all... but i can garuntee the performance gains are so small, putting foglights in there would make no real difference.. same goes for people like me who swapped out to a much bigger intercooler which puts the endtanks in the area of that hole... so all that engineering to blow the air on the pipes is pointless in my eyes...
i think there is more to just channeling the air if u plug them with the fogs, u will be adding an additional 1lb which u might think is not all that but when engineers get thier groups together to prototype a car or design one they usualy have to meet certain criteria, such as weight reduction. what's better than taking off those fog lights and actualy increase the heat transfer. evos are not look fast cars, they go fast.
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by detroit pistins
i think there is more to just channeling the air if u plug them with the fogs, u will be adding an additional 1lb which u might think is not all that but when engineers get thier groups together to prototype a car or design one they usualy have to meet certain criteria, such as weight reduction. what's better than taking off those fog lights and actualy increase the heat transfer. evos are not look fast cars, they go fast.
your joking rite?
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 07:36 PM
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Sorry guy... mechanical engineer here... when they do car specs they go by % weight... 1lb on a 3200lb car is negligable... as far as heat transfer, yes it channels air but nothing to drastic... similar to the air deflectors under the car to cool the brakes... dont get me wrong they are designed to cool and wouldnt be there if they did nothing... but on the other hand its nothing drastic. Remember they also have to make the car look good so they can sell it.... and those intercooler vents could also be just another marketing tool




Originally Posted by detroit pistins
i think there is more to just channeling the air if u plug them with the fogs, u will be adding an additional 1lb which u might think is not all that but when engineers get thier groups together to prototype a car or design one they usualy have to meet certain criteria, such as weight reduction. what's better than taking off those fog lights and actualy increase the heat transfer. evos are not look fast cars, they go fast.
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by shh!! sleeping
Sorry guy... mechanical engineer here... when they do car specs they go by % weight... 1lb on a 3200lb car is negligable... as far as heat transfer, yes it channels air but nothing to drastic... similar to the air deflectors under the car to cool the brakes... dont get me wrong they are designed to cool and wouldnt be there if they did nothing... but on the other hand its nothing drastic. Remember they also have to make the car look good so they can sell it.... and those intercooler vents could also be just another marketing tool
I totaly agree with u on the % wieght, and i am also an ME , but let me ask u this if u were one of the engineers that is working on building the evo, would you be working on the whole car, would they dedicate a certain assembly/component of the car to u and ur team???

so if ur mission to make the front bumper assembly 2 lbs lighter, improve air channeling to intercooler, and keep the marketing guy happy, what do u do? thus 1lb might be so effective if ur comparing it to the rest of the car, however, if ur project was the front bumper then 1lb is not a bad reduction, don;t u think?
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 08:23 PM
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If I have a 9, I wouldn't do it. But that's me.
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 01:22 PM
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those look ugly...if i was gonna do it i would at least use the smallest ones i could find so some air could still go around them to flow across the ic piping...but really why do it?...the fogs in the headlights work fine...and the holes in the bumper are what makes the bumper look good to me
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 01:27 PM
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i say dont try it would prob not look to hot but thats just my opinion
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 01:41 PM
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I doubt it. If you could measure the difference at all, you'd be lucky. The difference by covering those holes would be like driving on a day 1 degree warmer the next day, if that. These holes are similar to the intercooler sprayers they had on the Evo 8's... I tried to measure the differences in power and temps once with and with out it and could not get any statistical difference.... I guess that may be one of the reasons the engineers got rid of it on the 9's. And it never made it back on the 10's either....

I used the these holes in favor of brake ducts:


And no, I could not tell any difference at all by using these holes for something else.
I completely agree, my point was only to state that the power difference was indeed negligible.
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 01:43 PM
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The ducts are to cool the endtanks and help with heat dissipation.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/mitsubishi_lancer_evolution_ix

"Outside, a new front bumper fights aerodynamic lift with an available chin spoiler that increases the low-pressure zone under the nose. Two oval nostrils in the bumper help the intercooler by ramming fresh air around its input and output pipes."

But what do engineers know...
LMAO, thank you!!!
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 02:09 PM
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Cooling the intercooler clamps would net 0.001 whp at best, in fact the wind resistance created by 2 more holes in the bumper would offset any alledged gains from cooling. Those are there purely for cosmetics IMO.
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 06:00 PM
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That is a valid statement... i would assume though through visual production that the fascia and body lines were done simultaneously and together as a part of a team as to make the car look as one and not a buch of parts put together like a picasso...

However your statement is true, as a individual project it could have very well been done like that... lol always thinking outside the box


Originally Posted by detroit pistins
I totaly agree with u on the % wieght, and i am also an ME , but let me ask u this if u were one of the engineers that is working on building the evo, would you be working on the whole car, would they dedicate a certain assembly/component of the car to u and ur team???

so if ur mission to make the front bumper assembly 2 lbs lighter, improve air channeling to intercooler, and keep the marketing guy happy, what do u do? thus 1lb might be so effective if ur comparing it to the rest of the car, however, if ur project was the front bumper then 1lb is not a bad reduction, don;t u think?
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by shh!! sleeping
That is a valid statement... i would assume though through visual production that the fascia and body lines were done simultaneously and together as a part of a team as to make the car look as one and not a buch of parts put together like a picasso...

However your statement is true, as a individual project it could have very well been done like that... lol always thinking outside the box
ya and i don't usualy agree with engineers, i have seen alot of them that really need to go back to college...lol,
to me, i think it looks good the way it is, but again that's just my personal preference.
cheers!
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