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DYNOFLASH (Pruven) Vs. XEDE (VISHNU)
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DYNOFLASH (Pruven) Vs. XEDE (VISHNU)
OK, Both these products seem to be pretty good but I just want to hear some reviews or comments...
Pruven Product:
http://dynoflash.com/
VISHNU Product:
http://www.vishnutuning.com/xede_evo.htm
Pruven Product:
http://dynoflash.com/
VISHNU Product:
http://www.vishnutuning.com/xede_evo.htm
Pruven are located in Milford CT
The Dyno-Flash - reflash will not be available for about 2 - 3 more weeks - hence the very primative inital web page just to give some details about what the re-flash will consist of.
The major difference with the Dyno-Flash over all other similar products out there now is that the Dyno-Flash is done ON YOUR CAR - on the dyno - so the tune is matched to your modifications.
What I have seen with the aftermarket on the EVO is that the typical EVO owner likes to make significant mods and also like to pick and choose his mods. The other systems leave this customer out in left field as the through the mail tuners rely on you sticking with their pre-packaged "stages" As long as you stick with those mods your going to be OK with the through the mail tune - but as soon as you try doing a little changes - adding this or taking away that - you get disclaimers of incompatability and warnings of dire consequences.
The Dyno-Flash concept is simple - you mod your car ANYWAY you like - you pick and choose the best parts that suit your own taste. There are no limitations. You go out and buy the stuff at the best prices you can find. Once you get all your stuff - you make the Dyno-Flash appointment and the car is OPTIMIZED on the dyno to match all the stuff you bought.
Of course Dynop-Flash has some recomended set ups that are stages. However, these are merely suggestions. Get what ever parts you want, install then where ever you want and bring the car over and get it tuned.
With the Dyno-Flash you are not dealing with a company that just jumped on the Evo bandwagon trying to catch the wave of popularity. The people behind dyno flash have been 4g63 experts for years and know this power plant inside and out.
The Dyno-Flash team are all people who live, eat and sleep 4g63 and really enjoy working on Evos more than anything else.
Dyno-Flash is committed to providing a great value for your $$. The introductory price of $450.00 includes a inspection of your car, scan of OBDII and a full hour of dyno time with the a/f sniffer. Dyno-Flash does not believe in making empty promises - if your car does not pick up 20 HP to the wheels - there is NO charge.
There will be more information comming in the next few weeks. Right now Dyno-Flash is looking for a few beta testers who will recieve the Dyno-Flash at a 50% discount.
The major difference with the Dyno-Flash over all other similar products out there now is that the Dyno-Flash is done ON YOUR CAR - on the dyno - so the tune is matched to your modifications.
What I have seen with the aftermarket on the EVO is that the typical EVO owner likes to make significant mods and also like to pick and choose his mods. The other systems leave this customer out in left field as the through the mail tuners rely on you sticking with their pre-packaged "stages" As long as you stick with those mods your going to be OK with the through the mail tune - but as soon as you try doing a little changes - adding this or taking away that - you get disclaimers of incompatability and warnings of dire consequences.
The Dyno-Flash concept is simple - you mod your car ANYWAY you like - you pick and choose the best parts that suit your own taste. There are no limitations. You go out and buy the stuff at the best prices you can find. Once you get all your stuff - you make the Dyno-Flash appointment and the car is OPTIMIZED on the dyno to match all the stuff you bought.
Of course Dynop-Flash has some recomended set ups that are stages. However, these are merely suggestions. Get what ever parts you want, install then where ever you want and bring the car over and get it tuned.
With the Dyno-Flash you are not dealing with a company that just jumped on the Evo bandwagon trying to catch the wave of popularity. The people behind dyno flash have been 4g63 experts for years and know this power plant inside and out.
The Dyno-Flash team are all people who live, eat and sleep 4g63 and really enjoy working on Evos more than anything else.
Dyno-Flash is committed to providing a great value for your $$. The introductory price of $450.00 includes a inspection of your car, scan of OBDII and a full hour of dyno time with the a/f sniffer. Dyno-Flash does not believe in making empty promises - if your car does not pick up 20 HP to the wheels - there is NO charge.
There will be more information comming in the next few weeks. Right now Dyno-Flash is looking for a few beta testers who will recieve the Dyno-Flash at a 50% discount.
Last edited by Alfriedesq; Sep 30, 2003 at 09:14 PM.
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Yes - we will be doing about 20 - 30 beta testers to get a pool of maps and dyno sheets - the process will start on or about Oct 1 - look to www.dynoflash.com for all details in the next few weeks !
Originally posted by Alfriedesq
Yes - we will be doing about 20 - 30 beta testers to get a pool of maps and dyno sheets - the process will start on or about Oct 1 - look to www.dynoflash.com for all details in the next few weeks !
Yes - we will be doing about 20 - 30 beta testers to get a pool of maps and dyno sheets - the process will start on or about Oct 1 - look to www.dynoflash.com for all details in the next few weeks !
Thire 600whp EVO in the new up coming SCC is all controled by thire reflash.
Good stuff!!!
Last edited by Eric Lyublinsky; Sep 16, 2003 at 06:29 AM.
Nice if you live in the Northeast and don't want to manipulate any settings yourself. Otherwise, I'd still want a fully user programmable system, as I continually update and modify my car. I'm going to keep saving for the XEDE. That way, I get to control what the car is doing and can make changes. 
I agree Noize. I don't have deep enough pockets to buy all the upgrades I want and then tune the car (stroker, turbo upgrade, 3" turbo back, cams, cam gears...etc). The XEDE is nice for those of us that buy an upgrade every few months.
I'm located in Staten Island, NY and am willing to take a weekday off from to school to come down and be a beta tester for this project. Just contact me and I'll be more than ready to make an appointment, plus I want Pruven Performance to install my clutch once I get it, but I'd first like to see their operation and what better way to see.
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Originally posted by darski
or you can get yourself emanage for half the price, something you can actually use later on
or you can get yourself emanage for half the price, something you can actually use later on
But I do agree I would be more inclined to buy a SAFC and be in charge of all the tuning. However if you do have the money I think a $450 chip tune in conjunction with a SAFC to fine tune would be the best bet. Im sure driveability is going to be better with the chip but few people have the time to be heading to the dyno after every little change. It would be much simpler to have the SAFC adding a % or two here or there.
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eManage is only $299 from Boost Solutions (www.boostsolutionsinc.net). The $299 doesnt include any harness, but if you want to go cheap you can wire it yourself. If you dont want to do your own wiring, Godspeed sells the eManage prewired and soldered into a Field Harness for $550. All you need to do is to plug it into the car.
The best thing about this unit is..... If you want to sell your car one day, just unplug it and your car goes back to stock. You can sell the unit and sell the car. On the other hand, If you reflash your ECU for major mods (eg turbo, injectors), you wont be able to return the car to stock unless you pay for another reflash.
The best thing about this unit is..... If you want to sell your car one day, just unplug it and your car goes back to stock. You can sell the unit and sell the car. On the other hand, If you reflash your ECU for major mods (eg turbo, injectors), you wont be able to return the car to stock unless you pay for another reflash.
Originally posted by rdrkt
Last time I checked a full loaded Emanage was almost the cost of a standalone around 900 bucks.
But I do agree I would be more inclined to buy a SAFC and be in charge of all the tuning. However if you do have the money I think a $450 chip tune in conjunction with a SAFC to fine tune would be the best bet. Im sure driveability is going to be better with the chip but few people have the time to be heading to the dyno after every little change. It would be much simpler to have the SAFC adding a % or two here or there.
Last time I checked a full loaded Emanage was almost the cost of a standalone around 900 bucks.
But I do agree I would be more inclined to buy a SAFC and be in charge of all the tuning. However if you do have the money I think a $450 chip tune in conjunction with a SAFC to fine tune would be the best bet. Im sure driveability is going to be better with the chip but few people have the time to be heading to the dyno after every little change. It would be much simpler to have the SAFC adding a % or two here or there.
Last edited by 909; Sep 16, 2003 at 03:51 PM.
Originally posted by rdrkt
Last time I checked a full loaded Emanage was almost the cost of a standalone around 900 bucks.
But I do agree I would be more inclined to buy a SAFC and be in charge of all the tuning. However if you do have the money I think a $450 chip tune in conjunction with a SAFC to fine tune would be the best bet. Im sure driveability is going to be better with the chip but few people have the time to be heading to the dyno after every little change. It would be much simpler to have the SAFC adding a % or two here or there.
Last time I checked a full loaded Emanage was almost the cost of a standalone around 900 bucks.
But I do agree I would be more inclined to buy a SAFC and be in charge of all the tuning. However if you do have the money I think a $450 chip tune in conjunction with a SAFC to fine tune would be the best bet. Im sure driveability is going to be better with the chip but few people have the time to be heading to the dyno after every little change. It would be much simpler to have the SAFC adding a % or two here or there.
Originally posted by 909
eManage is only $299 from Boost Solutions (www.boostsolutionsinc.net). The $299 doesnt include any harness, but if you want to go cheap you can wire it yourself. If you dont want to do your own wiring, Godspeed sells the eManage prewired and soldered into a Field Harness for $550. All you need to do is to plug it into the car.
The best thing about this unit is..... If you want to sell your car one day, just unplug it and your car goes back to stock. You can sell the unit and sell the car. On the other hand, If you reflash your ECU for major mods (eg turbo, injectors), you wont be able to return the car to stock unless you pay for another reflash.
eManage is only $299 from Boost Solutions (www.boostsolutionsinc.net). The $299 doesnt include any harness, but if you want to go cheap you can wire it yourself. If you dont want to do your own wiring, Godspeed sells the eManage prewired and soldered into a Field Harness for $550. All you need to do is to plug it into the car.
The best thing about this unit is..... If you want to sell your car one day, just unplug it and your car goes back to stock. You can sell the unit and sell the car. On the other hand, If you reflash your ECU for major mods (eg turbo, injectors), you wont be able to return the car to stock unless you pay for another reflash.
BTW - www.dynoflash.com will re-flash back to stock anyone at any time - no questions asked - just stop by and you will be back to stock in 5 mins
Also - every flash has a unconditional money back guarantee - if you are not 100% completely satisfied with your tune and the after dyno chart - your car will be re-flashed back to stock and you will NOT be charged anything
Who else offers that kind of warranty????
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Originally posted by Alfriedesq
Good idea - the Dyno-Flash does a lot of things - eliminates the fuel cut; raises the rev limiter; eliminates the top speed limiter - (yes we have one for those few to go over 150 mph!) - and totally reprograms the fuel curve and ign timing - - - adding a SAFC would give you the ability to tailor the tune for race gas of if you added more mods not a bad idea - but the safc only does 1/10th of what the dyno-flash does
Good idea - the Dyno-Flash does a lot of things - eliminates the fuel cut; raises the rev limiter; eliminates the top speed limiter - (yes we have one for those few to go over 150 mph!) - and totally reprograms the fuel curve and ign timing - - - adding a SAFC would give you the ability to tailor the tune for race gas of if you added more mods not a bad idea - but the safc only does 1/10th of what the dyno-flash does
Originally posted by Revolutionary
thats odd; i could have sworn the car was gearing limited to 157...
thats odd; i could have sworn the car was gearing limited to 157...