I still like the idea of a reflash. I always did from day one.

I would already be running the works re-flash if they simply posted their Air/fuel ratio's and backed them up. (thats all! plain and simple)

Instead...I'm choosing to wait and see what the real world experiences are turning out to be.

So far so good is all I have to say..and I will have a re-flash done soon by someone. I am more comfortable with the works product now however, then I have been before. I will say the feedback has been very positive so far.

 

Regarding a spare ecu, AFAIK they are not readilly available since they have to be coded to the car.

I saw posts about ways to use a spare ecu but haven't seen anything that actually worked (something about taping the key nearby???). I would definitely want a spare ecu, so I could revert to stock. This is what I did with my Audi A4.

Is there new info on spare ecus now? BTW, if you did buy one and get it to work, they are fairly spendy, like ~1k or so, right?

Thanks,

FB

 

I checked at my dealer and the ECU is about $900. So you would have abougt $1,400 invested - too much.

 

Actually Noize, you sort of missed the mark here. As Zeus began to awknowledge, one can further tune/enhance a "works-reflashed" ECU easily with a S-AFC, GReddy E-Manage, or any piggyback for that matter. I've actually spoken to one of the Works' techs about this -- not that they recommend it... because it's not in popular demand, but it can be done Noize. In fact, I'm a picky guy... and I live in hot-*** FL. For that reason alone, I would smooth out my A/F ratios with my S-AFC if I decided to go with a Works flash......... still thinking about it actually.

So next time... think things ALL THE WAY through before you verbally attack a knowledgable individual like Zeus.... TUVM Noize

 

Hello guys,

As far as the Works ECU reflash goes, I believed that i am the first one to get it and so far no problems, couldn't be happier!
So happens that i was driving to work this morning, and was just mentally comparing how the evo drives before and after reflash, and how much better it feels now than on the stock ecu as nothing happens before after 5k, try to pass over 5k, lifeless!
Now, it just pulls and pulls till redline, with no drop in power, if you see Jess's dyno pulls, at least 50 hp more!
And it happens all over the powerband.
Overall , an excellent investment IMO for someone who wants a stealth upgrade, and don't want to mess around with other piggybacks or other electronic control devices. [guess i must be getting old, as there are so many out there i get kinda confuse as what does what!]
As with any products, invariably there will be upgrade paths, such as throttle body, boost control implementation, etc. as Mojo pointed out, you can only waited so long!
Is there things about the Works reflash that i don't like, sure, like it seems to take them forever to even get their products to the public, and i for one, is very impatient. But after getting to meet them and getting to know all the guys at Works, watching them doing their R&D, then, i realized that they want to be the very best and minimized any chance of damaging our cars once their products are out, and i respect that, as i don't want to pay for a new motor if they mess up.
Initially, they don't released the a/f ratio , and dyno on their products, people were worried ,which may have cost them a few lost sales, but as witnessed by many, different users all over the country have their evo dynoed,and turns out that they are excellent in their ecu reflashes.
Also, got this hunger for more power!!

I have started a different thread

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...hreadid=40715,
please join in,have some fun,
that hopefully will help everyone in deciding what to do next besides the Reflash that will bring us more power and happiness with our Evo!

BTW, i am going to have the boost reflash in a few days [finishing beta testing of course!] hopefully, and will let everyone know!

Wilson

 

It can be found discounted down to $674.67. I agree it costs a great deal but the on-going issues in the interceptor world has me rethinking how I will spend money.

I any case is this possible?

 

Been gone. Answer some ?s

You will have to pay shipping back and forth. About 25$ each way for FedEx overnight with $900 insurance. Total with shipping $500.

I couldn't tell much difference in the bottom end.

I think it will give you more HP if you run 93-94 octane with the 91 flash but I don't have any way to say that for sure. It's nice to be able to run 91 and still have a very noticable power increase. I don't have to go looking for a station here that pumps 100 octane anymore. It doesn't feel like it's pulling timing with the 91.

If you just want a reliable, stealth 25-30 more HP it's the way to go imo. I believe with the Boost control it will add another 20 HP. Some have dyno'd and are getting 50 WHP with thier other mods, throttle body, exhale, reflash.

I can see why someone would choose a piggyback, stand alone, or AFC/MBC/EBC also. All have there advantages/disadvantages.

The WORKS Brainflash with boost, turboback exhaust is all I need for now but everyone knows how that goes Who knows maybe down the road I'll be shopping for a whole new Turbo and looking for 400whp, not now though.

Take care

 

Any update yet?

thanks..

 

spyderturbo,

Been driving around with the P2 boost reflash for the last few days, and again, like what i jmentioned in the following thread
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...hreadid=39663,
It just pulls much harder.
As i did not see the dyno sheet yet, heard from the gravevine it is good for another 15-20 minimal across the whole powerband when the turbo kicks in, as i believed that boost is held constant up till redline.
On the real world, seems like the lower end did feel stronger though, and throughout the mid to high rpms, definitely much more urgent and pulls like crazy when you floor it.
The P2 upgrade reflash is for me a step up from the original flash, as the latter is from stock, quite a accomplishment for the Works group as they have to make sure nothing goes wrong when they flash the program into the customer's Evo.
As of now, still very some minor tweakings to the program, and according to the Works group, should be introduce any moment.

Again, for members that wants to stay stealth without using piggybacks, an excellent way to go, way recommended
Now, let me get back to my 272's and new turbo

Wilson

 

thanks for the reply and link.
The P2 sounds great so far!

 

Question. I use octane 94 from sunoco here and I was just wondering if I get the 93 map, would it be a problem if I still used 94? Also, I have a boost controller on the way, any problems with that too?

thanks!

 

Deceit, The extra octane points will be of no harm.

But when ever you put a boost controller into place you have to get it set up by a knowledgeable tuner. Too much boost can give you a lean condition, then your engine will pop.

SC~

 

The P2 is designed and optimized to work with your factory boost controller ...thats the point of paying for a boost control reflash. You could certainly add a stand-alone controller, but that would be defeating the purpose that the P2 is intended for.

N10S

 

Deceit if your going with Works return the boost controller they don't recommend it, plus they are coming out with a boost remap. If you were to go with a boost controller for one go with a electronic one, when ever there is a temp change or altitude change the manual will change it self plus you have to adjust manuals often very scary if you ask me. Along with an electric boost controller go with a Apex SAFCII I would consider Buschurs along with the instructions, just get a HKS electric boost controller or just wait and get the Works P2 flash I think that would be the way to go. My 2cents