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Why doesn't Mitsubishi factory install turbo timers?

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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 06:13 PM
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 06:17 PM
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Originally posted by propellerhead
If Mistubishi was that worried about coking the bearings they'd do something similar to what Audi does, they'd install a timed after run coolant pump.

.........And increase the price.

The Audi si more of a refined ride than that of an Evo. I think the Evo is more performance oriented, therefore people would be more apt to maintain it, rather than just drive and shut it off. I just don't see many Audi owners waiting while their car cools down. They would miss all of their important business-whatever-it-is-the-do-appointments.
Old Oct 15, 2003 | 03:53 AM
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Originally posted by 90GSX-03EVO


.........And increase the price.

The Audi si more of a refined ride than that of an Evo. I think the Evo is more performance oriented, therefore people would be more apt to maintain it, rather than just drive and shut it off. I just don't see many Audi owners waiting while their car cools down. They would miss all of their important business-whatever-it-is-the-do-appointments.

If that would save the engine/turbo, I think its worth the cost.
Old Oct 15, 2003 | 07:15 AM
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Originally posted by 90GSX-03EVO

.........And increase the price.
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Yes, it would probably increase the cost some but nothing in comparision to adding an aftermarket turbo timer.

Audi owners may be complacent regarding cool down but I'll take a well engineered "cool down" solution over a tacked on turbo timer.

Coked turbo bearings must have been an issue on the S4 for Audi to have incorporated an afterrun coolant pump. It's not present on the 1.8T found in the A4 or Passat. I'm thinking that if afterrun cooling was a necessity to improve the life of the turbo in the Evo, Mitsubishi would have built it that way.

Just my $0.02...
Old Oct 15, 2003 | 11:48 AM
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So a totally seperate OEM pump that is installed by Mitsu and the timing circuits to control it would cost less than $100?

Cool....but I doubt it. They want over $100 for a shift knob.
Old Oct 15, 2003 | 12:00 PM
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Ya this has to be the most pointless comment ever. You said that when you drive it hard to let it cool down wtf do you think the tt does? it does the same thing without having me sit in the ****ing car and wait for it to cool down whats the prob with that?
Dude.. Read my post again.. For you, its probably a good idea to get a turbo timer, you obviously have a hard time following something simple.. My OBVIOUS point was that in day to day driving, you don't drive the car hard enough to make the turbo timer a worthwhile expense. EVEN if you did some performance driving, the short period of time you used to slow down, pull into a parking lot, and shut it off, is usually enough time for it to cool down.

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Old Oct 15, 2003 | 12:46 PM
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Originally posted by 90GSX-03EVO
So a totally seperate OEM pump that is installed by Mitsu and the timing circuits to control it would cost less than $100?

Cool....but I doubt it. They want over $100 for a shift knob.
I'm talking about fatory installed **** like the Momo steering wheel and Brembo brakes. Do you think MMC paid the $2000+ retail cost for a set of Brembos like you would if you bought them as a dealer installed item? Of course not. A factory installed piece would be dropped into the car at the same time the whole engine/tranaxle assembly. The timing circuit would not be much more complicated than the one that turns off the dome light after it's been left on for too long. Certainly less complex than the circuit that changes the wiper interval based on vehicle speed. It would probably cost MMC ~$30 for the whole piece.

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Old Oct 15, 2003 | 01:35 PM
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Originally posted by propellerhead

It would probably cost MMC ~$30 for the whole piece.
And I am sure that is how much we would pay for it in the end, too.......

Come on, price the Recaros individually.

Yes, it would be cheaper for the big guys to do it, but you know what is even cheaper??? NOT DOING IT. I bet that is why they don't do it. Besides, if they couldn't get an HKS or a Blitz, or a GReddy or some other name brand TT or TT-like device, then people would just swap it anyway. If they didn't say "Brembo" on the calipers, I bet more people would upgrade.

We are arguing the same point, but from different angles I think.
Old Oct 15, 2003 | 05:05 PM
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I suspect in addition to it not being needed, that there would be a legal and liability issues (as stated in numerous earlier posts) Just like the front license plate bracket and frame.. Some states require it, some states don't.. Oh well.. I think we're beating a dead horse at this point.. Give it a few weeks and we can rehash the entire conversation all over again. hehehe..
Old Oct 15, 2003 | 05:11 PM
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I knew there might be some legal/liability issues. I wanted to know more SPECIFICALLY what they were, so if your not intrested in talking about why the hell did you click on the link Malibujack?? Please think before you speak.

It is better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

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Old Oct 15, 2003 | 05:57 PM
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He's just speaking his mind...wait, I'm not trying to reinforce the "fool" coment....hehe.

Yes, it is not TOTALLY necessary.

Yes, there are issues as in the front license plate frame.

Yes, we have went over all this before.

I agree with everyone here for the most part.

Let's all sit down and have a while our turbo timers do the work for us.....At least with a TT, you wouldn't have to worry about a cop being an *** and giving you a ticket for DUI after you reach back in your car to turn it off after manually timing it and drinking while you wait.

bah.....I am beating a dead horse and going way off-topic.
Old Oct 15, 2003 | 07:07 PM
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Originally posted by xcdan
I knew there might be some legal/liability issues. I wanted to know more SPECIFICALLY what they were, so if your not intrested in talking about why the hell did you click on the link Malibujack?? Please think before you speak.

It is better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

//Power On

Dan
If you want to know specifically, your best bet is to look up the information for the DOT in your specific state.. In my county it is Illegal to leave a car running unattended.. It doesnt stipulate anything specific about remote start, or timers.. I suspect most people in my area are either unaware, or don't care. I do know that its seldom enforced however.

Besides, if you didn't want peoples input, you should never have asked the question.. In your first post you just wanted clarification of the reason they don't have them..

Originally posted by xcdan
I know that there is a really good reason that car companys dont manufacture the cars with a turbo timer, I was just hoping that you guys could refresh my memory on the subject. Thanks a lot

//Power On

Dan
Therefore I don't see how my input could have been inappropriate or foolish.. Besides, I choose not to battle wits with the unarmed.. ok, bad joke.. sorry..

but the DOT will be your best source for information. Since cars have to be legal in all the states that their sold in, they generally are manufactured with options that will not have legal issues with the vast majority. In the states where items are then legal, these items (if offered) Can be installed at the dealer. There are obviously exceptions...

With all that said, I will no longer add to this thread since I obviously offended you with my ignorance..




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