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Old Oct 18, 2003 | 10:12 PM
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1st thing how much debt do you have? Any CC's if so pay them off. Then take on about 50% of your bring home and spend it. so if you bring home 8,000 a month spend 4,000 max. Also do you have a trade in? If so what's it worth? It is smart that you are looking now, it took me 2 years to find something to replace my NSX, I drove that car less then 2,000 miles a year and it was collecting dust. The evo is a great cheap track car I would say at 0% it should be around 500 a month, that's 30k / 60. Also how old are you and what's your driving record like?



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If you don't mind me asking, as a college student who is looking at buying an EVO in the next 1-1.5 years, yay for having a job, do you think any of the following deters the EVO's from selling?

Many have said advertising and I will agree that I have seen absolutely none but I tink this is a car that you either know about it or you don't. What about quality? I have read about some problems, do they still exist? Will this car be around next model year and beyond? (2004-2005+?). Other things that are affecting it are the markup, but I recently visited two different dealers willing to sell me one of five EVO's all with ~15 miles for ~30,000 plus tax. Even the dealers I have talked to have pointed out the fact that the cars are not moving, direct statement from one manager "We Have NOT sold one for over 3 months!" Do you think one of the reasons is that they will not let people test drive the car unless they are absolutely certain to be buying it? I'm talking credit checks, non refundable deposits of upto ~$1000, and the like. Did any of you have to put a deposit down or anything like that? I for one wouldn't mind driving an EVO, I really want to drive one as a matter of fact to see if it is really what I am looking for in a car. I have never had this happen, even when i went and test drove a f-250 superduty that cost ~41,000. I don't know if I will ever be satisified but the EVO has a lot of what I'm looking for, but I can't afford to pay the $$$ just to test drive it.

So would any of you offer an advice for someone wanting to buy an EVO? If you don't mind me asking, what are your monthly payments? The dealer told me I'd be looking at $600+ to get one on Mitsu 0% financing for 60 months. Online calculators are telling me ~520 bucks with 0% and 60 months based on 30k cost. Finally what does it cost to insure an EVO? I am just curious, sorry for the long post. I was wondering if anyone had noticed any of the above things as well?

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Old Oct 18, 2003 | 10:17 PM
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you also must add the sales tax and all there paper work fees , ,which they dont add that much . Also im sure that it wouldnt be 0% since the Evo doesnt qualified as some of the other cars that mitsu has the deals on . They will do there best to get you in there.
you may be able to get 3.9% with a good credit report score 700+ .
I was able to test drive the Evo twice , and also the STi . Im glad that i test drove it for the second time since the sales man allow me to take and drive it in the freeway . Also it allowed me to get a better feeling for the car ...
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Old Oct 18, 2003 | 10:29 PM
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I'd have to say that refusing to allow test drives hurts the sales. I decided to buy the car based on my test drive. The dealer said it was unusual to let someone test drive the Evo. I showed up at the dealership having come straight from work, so I was in business attire and was driving a very conservative-looking Mercedes. So both Mitsubishi and I got lucky, since I wouldn't have bought the car without a test-drive.

The markup, and the reputation that all dealers ask for markup, hurts sales. I went to a dealer 100 miles away to buy my Evo for sticker, since my understanding was that all the dealers in my home county insisted on getting markup. Many buyers will wisely refuse to pay markup, knowing that it is money down the drain. I'm sure some people that would have bought the Evo for sticker decided not to because they didn't want to pay markup or have to fight to pay sticker.

A friend of mine who is in her 40's still had trouble recently getting a test drive! So I am letting her drive mine tomorrow. I wonder if the dealers really have a good reason for not allowing test drives. Is there an insurance issue? If not, the policy is a foolish sales-killer.

I doubt that dealers of other fast cars are not letting anybody test drive their S2000's, Corvettes, Boxster S, 911's, Type-R Jags, etc.
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Old Oct 18, 2003 | 11:58 PM
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i had a problem getting a test drive on the g35 , sometimes if the car is selling they will not consider test drives .
On the g35 they only had an automatic coupe available , no 6 speed . But a dealer that is willing to sell or needs to make a sell ,will do it with no problem . The dealer i went to will even allow you to test drive the car on any color that you will like. (not like the color makes a difference on the performance level) but they treat there customers good..
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Old Oct 19, 2003 | 01:31 AM
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The problem with MMCA is that they poured a ton of money down the rat hole called "2 Fast 2 Furious" and are relying on that movie alone as their advertising. Dumb asses don't understand that the demographic of that movie audience is 12 to 22 years old and had trouble paying for the movie ticket, let alone paying for a 30K + car! I drove about 80 miles to find a dealership willing to deal rather than the local one who wasn't willing to deal (EVO I looked at is STILL sitting in their show room....no test drives allowed).

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Old Oct 19, 2003 | 10:29 AM
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Its stupid comparing the Evolution sales to the RX7, Supra, 300ZX or the 3000GT, their were 2 reasons why thease cars didnt make it, one was cost, hopping up imports back in the early to mid 90's wasnt as popular as it is today, people could only dream of owning a japanese supercar since most of thease cars we're selling for $40,000 to $50,000 MSRP! (Let alone 90% of dealers marked up), another thing was performance, of course thease cars were fantastic in their stock form but at the time you could easaly buy a Corvette ZR1 that really left the rest of thease cars in the dust for performance, and costed just as much (if not a few grand cheaper) as the Japanese supercars of the early/mid 90's.

The Japanese automakes learned their lesson when they offered their flagship supercars at the time, thats why now the new versions of their flagships are alot more practical and stay witin the magic number of $30,000.
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Old Oct 19, 2003 | 11:08 AM
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Ya, i dont really see why they dont let you test drive the evos, all it does it ruin their amount of sales. no ones going to buy something if they dont know how it works, knowledge leads people on. i went to the local nissan dealership and they treated me like a king, i got the test drive the car, take the car to its limit etc, just letting me do what i want to with the 350z to find out how it works. after that we signed papers and such and bought the car that day. a++ for service, something mitsu might want to look up on if they want more sales o.O
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Old Oct 19, 2003 | 11:36 AM
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Willium.... damn straight on the test drive thing.. I took the know it all salesman for a real ride.. did a 180 and power out with him.. .. we bargained.. I wore her home.

A surprising number of people know what the evo is but most don't. What is Mitsu thinking? The comercials I saw just before 2f2f came to dvd were of a 3g spyder and an oz... why not have an E8 go figure. If they start giving them away I'll get one for my other foot. I think Mitsu flat misunderstood the demographics.

As for quality issues.. people on these boards are the only ones who know whats up and there are widley differing views even here wiht owners, so it seems doubtful that quality has any effect on the market. Yes they are cheap but the spyder sells by the bushel basket and is close to Evo in price (not to mention the 3g spyder is a dog.. don't flame me I had one of the first 3g gt 5 spds sold in CA).
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Old Oct 19, 2003 | 11:54 AM
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i think its patially the american mentality on the type of cars they like from the begining v8 this and that what ever.it took a while for the evo and wrx and sti to get here considering how long they have been out in the rest of the world.
I myself am from the caribbean (barbados) to be exact and have been living here since 92'.i think they started bringing them into b'bos in the early to mid 90's and ever since then i was hoping on the day that they would officially start selling them here.
Need less to say there is an enthusias for every type of car out there ,and because the rally scene is so hype in all other countries but here........ yet. i think that officially started up the crave for those cars. "quick cars to handle small road situations ". i went to b'dos last year for two weeks and saw all except the evo II and evo6.5 t.m.e. even got to sit in a brand new evo vII .those cars look so beautiful down there.
I think if the rally here was going for a few more years the cars would probably sell better considering people getting into it more too.
i went to moroso last month and i sware every row had at least one srt-4 they are very quick cars and they will beeven quicker for 04' model,the sti's are fast too but i only like them up to 99'. i wouldn't be caught dead in a srt-4.i like the minis too i am glad to see them back on the road(my dad had a gold one when i was 5.
i've been an evo enthusias since the mid 90's and that is what i will drive.
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Old Oct 19, 2003 | 11:56 AM
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Originally posted by willum14pb
Ya, i dont really see why they dont let you test drive the evos, all it does it ruin their amount of sales. no ones going to buy something if they dont know how it works, knowledge leads people on. i went to the local nissan dealership and they treated me like a king, i got the test drive the car, take the car to its limit etc, just letting me do what i want to with the 350z to find out how it works. after that we signed papers and such and bought the car that day. a++ for service, something mitsu might want to look up on if they want more sales o.O
You have to remember, Mitsubishi doesnt sell the cars, private business with the right to franchise Mitsubishi vehicles do. If they dont let you test drive the car, theirs really nothing MMA can do about it, if thats the way that the dealer wants to do business, thats their problem, not Mit's.
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Old Oct 19, 2003 | 12:26 PM
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It's a two-sided coin which none of you want to admit, but I will:

As much as I felt I should be able to test drive an Evo (and I did test drive one) I also would never buy one with more than 10 miles on it. That's why they don't want people to test drive them because they know most buyers dont want to buy a car with higher mileage.
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Old Oct 19, 2003 | 12:38 PM
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Originally posted by WildRice
Willium.... damn straight on the test drive thing.. I took the know it all salesman for a real ride.. did a 180 and power out with him.. .. we bargained.. I wore her home.

A surprising number of people know what the evo is but most don't. What is Mitsu thinking? The comercials I saw just before 2f2f came to dvd were of a 3g spyder and an oz... why not have an E8 go figure. If they start giving them away I'll get one for my other foot. I think Mitsu flat misunderstood the demographics.

As for quality issues.. people on these boards are the only ones who know whats up and there are widley differing views even here wiht owners, so it seems doubtful that quality has any effect on the market. Yes they are cheap but the spyder sells by the bushel basket and is close to Evo in price (not to mention the 3g spyder is a dog.. don't flame me I had one of the first 3g gt 5 spds sold in CA).
hold uuuuuup buddy the car in 2f2f is a disgised evolution 7 they change the wing and front bupper. this car is cosiderable quicker than evolution 8. maybe alot movie watcher though the same thing about paul walker's car wow i can't believe you though that was a OZ.
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Old Oct 19, 2003 | 12:44 PM
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It's because of the best movie ever 2Fast 2Furious that is why Mitsubishi got to sell the Evos but now people have heard the problem with the Evo no one wants to spend money with a car that has problems.
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Old Oct 19, 2003 | 12:47 PM
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i guess you will watch the movie a little more closely and to see how straight the car kept while dipping throught traffic while the spider was all over the road.and the highway the called I 95 in the move was actually I 75 . i don't know about you but i bought the movie because the star was driviing a real evo and more driving situations, tyrese could have drove the spider ina canal and left in the first 5 minutes of the movie for all i care.
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Old Oct 19, 2003 | 12:57 PM
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That is kinda ignorant, my car happens to be a DSM, and the DSM that I have happens to be made in japan
All DSM's were made in Normal, Illinois.
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