I think he is talking about the comercial with the two guys in the dealership sitting in the two cars the oz and the eclipse. Not the movie.

 

This is true or at least assembled here ,by the looks of the eclipse turbo models from the early 90' to when they stop making them, from what i could see the engine is a reworked evo III's engine cutting out about 40 horses to meet us emissions.

 

oops i guess i mis-read it .

 

The JDM evo 7 was not "considerably quicker" than the EVO 8. Check your facts before making such statements. When you compare the average of all the numbers, 1/4 mile ties, , published 0-60, etc...the cars are remarkebly close. Even a .4 second 0-60 time is not a significant advantage between two cars.


Percy

 

The DSM came out in 1990 (actually 1989.5).

The Evo came out in 1992, I think. The 4G63 has been in a lot of different cars.


Japanese design, American built. The Gallant VR-4 is a different story. Look at the build quality with that car. I would love to own a GVR-4, either a 91 or a 92, they are the poo.

 

in race talk. your statement is what i mean.i didn't say "alot quicker" or "much quicker" i said considerably the evo 7 is still under 300hp.buddy i know my facts.

 

What?

 

theres been comercials ... it was something like ... "we didnt start a religion, we started an evolution. they had rally cars and the evo 7 mostly

 

quite true. but i was mainly commenting on the 95' and up eclipse gst .i am not sure on the 91's.
were they 200hp also back then (on the 91's).

 

I heard the PitPass theme song Friday night at the local Sonic when I was going to talk to a couple of friends.

You know, that one about "Let's do it just start a comotion....Put the body in motion.......put, put, put the body in motion." Or something like that.

Other than that, I have yet to see one US commercial or advertisement for the Evo.

 

The first generation DSM 4G63 was a lot closer to the Evo 1 to 3 4g63 than the 2nd gen motor.

The 1st gen had a 14b, which is a mitsu turbo, better head, blah blah blah. The Evo had a 16G, just a little larger than the 14b.

The 2nd gen 4G63 had a Garret turbo, which was pathetic and would lose strength at higher rpm/14 psi.

But, yeah, the basic design in the dsm'S 4g63 and the Evo 1 to Evo 3 4g63 are the same.

 

I'm fairly new to this but what the hell does DSM stand for? I know JDM (japanese direct market) is DSM (Domestic Sales Market?) Thanks!

 

Really? Other then the turbo not being a Mitsubishi, I would say the 2Gen had alot more in common with the Evo I-III, then the 1G's motor does. Aren't all Evo's seven bolt? I have also heard you can drop an EVO I-III motor into a 2G with little, if any modification, whereas some work would have to be done to get one into a 1G. But, alas, in the end I guess it doesn't really matter. It's not worth the expense just to say you have a JDM motor in your DSM (Diamond Star Motors) when a 6-bolt botom, and worked 2G head are the best combo.

 

Road Race Engineering, before there was Road Race Motorsports.....or was it the other way around.......anyway, the Road Race that dealt with the DSM's......they had a web page up about a "JDM" swap that was pretty informative.

I can't find it now........

Oh, and DSM stands for Diamond Star Motors (Talon/Eclipse/Laser) which casr are often reffered to as T/E/L's on message boards.