My evo is spitting flames!
never been to the road races yet,,,,,
Jan 18, 2004, 03:25 PM
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Heh, it's cool man. I live in Nebraska where if your car doesn't shoot flames out due to some crazy forced induction, or some big block cubic inches then you're a sissyman
Heh, it's cool man. I live in Nebraska where if your car doesn't shoot flames out due to some crazy forced induction, or some big block cubic inches then you're a sissyman
I just get huge clouds of black smoke behind me.
Jan 18, 2004, 06:40 PM
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Originally posted by Coolguy949
so rocks dont crack the lights
so rocks dont crack the lights
Rocks too.
Jan 18, 2004, 07:12 PM
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Yeah I guess all the Pro Touring cars and any other Forced induction racing teams can't tune for ****... lolfof rent a Le Mans DVD and watch all the factory teams roast hotdogs ;-)
Jan 19, 2004, 11:35 AM
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Originally posted by robi
Yeah I guess all the Pro Touring cars and any other Forced induction racing teams can't tune for ****... lolfof rent a Le Mans DVD and watch all the factory teams roast hotdogs ;-)
Yeah I guess all the Pro Touring cars and any other Forced induction racing teams can't tune for ****... lolfof rent a Le Mans DVD and watch all the factory teams roast hotdogs ;-)
Here's why misfiring happens in a car:
Symptoms:
Misfiring
Causes:
Plug nose is too long for engine head
Foreign object (bolt/nut) in combustion chamber
Wet, oily black deposits on the insulator and electrodes
Wrong piston rings, cylinders, and valve guides
Severe detonation
Incorrect tool/torque applied during installation or removal
Careless gap setting
MMMM severe detonation. Happy Flames shooting!
Jan 19, 2004, 11:45 AM
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Spitting flames has nothing to do with misfiring. It means you're running rich so there's still has in the exhaust system. It's so incredibly hot that the second it makes contact with oxygen it ignites. The higher the octane, the easier it happens.
Jan 19, 2004, 07:11 PM
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like this?
Agree. 
But I wonder how one can get blue flame shooting in their exhaust? I know blue flames were all over the place in 2F&2F. But normally the flame should look like the above picture if the car is running rich... Since you can't really get blue-colored flame unless you are burning gas fuel like propane or any lighter hydrocarbons (i.e. Methane, Ethane).
Originally posted by Coolguy949
Spitting flames has nothing to do with misfiring. It means you're running rich so there's still has in the exhaust system. It's so incredibly hot that the second it makes contact with oxygen it ignites. The higher the octane, the easier it happens.
Spitting flames has nothing to do with misfiring. It means you're running rich so there's still has in the exhaust system. It's so incredibly hot that the second it makes contact with oxygen it ignites. The higher the octane, the easier it happens.
But I wonder how one can get blue flame shooting in their exhaust? I know blue flames were all over the place in 2F&2F. But normally the flame should look like the above picture if the car is running rich... Since you can't really get blue-colored flame unless you are burning gas fuel like propane or any lighter hydrocarbons (i.e. Methane, Ethane).
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Jan 19, 2004, 07:25 PM
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Yeah At the last NASA event the zo6 I passed said the reason he couldn't get back around me was the 4 foot flame (got to love that VP 110) the EVO kept throwing distracted him ( I hope it's because I drove better) But the z06 had NOTHING on my Buschur Stage 3+EVO in a straight line..(missing cams but have the 650cc injectors W/the 255 walbro) ....... 4K in third to fourth on the rev limiter ( about 60 to125mph) That's right for less than 3K in bolt on parts with BR AFC settings and NO dyno/tunner extra costs your EVO will be as fast as a zo6 in the middle of its speed sweet spot..... (Think what you could do from a standing start ;-). ) Oh the M-3s (7) even modded couldn't hang (I could lap the stock ones) The Sti's wern't even in the mix (could put 6 car lengths on them on the above noted straight). Man Trackdays are fun! (NASA open track run what you brung level 4)
Jan 19, 2004, 07:27 PM
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Originally posted by robi
Yeah I guess all the Pro Touring cars and any other Forced induction racing teams can't tune for ****... lolfof rent a Le Mans DVD and watch all the factory teams roast hotdogs ;-)
Yeah I guess all the Pro Touring cars and any other Forced induction racing teams can't tune for ****... lolfof rent a Le Mans DVD and watch all the factory teams roast hotdogs ;-)
Jan 20, 2004, 09:16 AM
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Originally posted by Coolguy949
Spitting flames has nothing to do with misfiring. It means you're running rich so there's still has in the exhaust system. It's so incredibly hot that the second it makes contact with oxygen it ignites. The higher the octane, the easier it happens.
Spitting flames has nothing to do with misfiring. It means you're running rich so there's still has in the exhaust system. It's so incredibly hot that the second it makes contact with oxygen it ignites. The higher the octane, the easier it happens.
"BEE RACING REV LIMITER
The unique REV LIMITER from Power Builder Bee Racing is a device where a driver can use to prevent a vehicle's engine from being over rev. All parameter adjustments on this device can be made on the fly from the driver's seat. This REV LIMITER is achieved by cutting off the ignition at a preset RPM limit, and by re-routing a fuel dump. An aural feedback of back fire popping sound from the exhaust muffler is the result followed by a fantastic visual of fire coming out from the exhaust muffler tip. This aural & visual feedback is the result of the misfire the system creates. Available for Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Mitsubishi, Mazda and Subaru. "
That's funny because Bee Racing has a misfiring system that actually causes this to occur.
But now thanks to your elightenment, I Guess they know nothing about misfiring and shooting flames.
Jan 20, 2004, 09:25 AM
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Yes, when INDUCED (like the product you are discribing), misfire can cause some fire to come out of the back depending on how much fuel the engine was pouring in at the time of the fuel cutoff that wont get burnt off in the combustion chamber. Mine does it sometimes when I bounce off the rev limiter. When air density is pretty high too, it seems to ignite faster.
Not that I like it. The last thing I want is a cop seeing a huge flame coming out of the back end.
What I meant before was that just because you are shooting fire doesnt mean you have a misfire issue. It just simply means there is unburnt gas in the exhaust pipe that is extrememly hot and ready to ignite when it meets with oxygen.
Not that I like it. The last thing I want is a cop seeing a huge flame coming out of the back end.
What I meant before was that just because you are shooting fire doesnt mean you have a misfire issue. It just simply means there is unburnt gas in the exhaust pipe that is extrememly hot and ready to ignite when it meets with oxygen.
Jan 20, 2004, 11:06 AM
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Lancer 4 Sale, you are wrong. The flames are a result of unburned gas in the exhaust stream igniting with the heat and oxygen when reaching the end of the tailpipe. It has nothing to do with misfiring and no, it won't harm the turbo as someone posted.