Attn: Baja10
brought to first shop?
the moment the car broke down i stopped and had the car towed to the nearest mitsu dealer... not sure what u're talking about. the dealer themselves said i didnt have enough oil, which is what caused the damage. they said i needed a new engine, and that nothing would be covered under warranty because I had raced and neglected the car.
the moment the car broke down i stopped and had the car towed to the nearest mitsu dealer... not sure what u're talking about. the dealer themselves said i didnt have enough oil, which is what caused the damage. they said i needed a new engine, and that nothing would be covered under warranty because I had raced and neglected the car.
Last edited by :*-(; Oct 22, 2003 at 05:21 PM.
From what I see you had your oil changed at a ford dealer; I could not see that it was actually for an EVO.
2. When you took it to the mitsu shop in gainsville the damage was already done.
3. You tried to take it to another Mitsu dealer in orl Sport mitsu
If you had you oil changed at the ford dealer and you were way low on oil, you should be talking to them to find out why they didnt change it correctly. ie fill to specified level, forgot to install the drain plug, didnt tighten the oil filter. etc.
in addition as stated before mitsu is stating the damage was due to neglect; so if your oil was sow low as to cause engine failure you should have noticed it due to the oil light comming on on your dash. IE neglect.
You have not given any specifics on the exact damage stated by mitsu or how your oil was that low in the first place.
Now if what you are saying is true and the piston just broke, which is possible due to manufacturer defect, than they would have to replace. but it sounds like you have more damage than you are willing to fess up to.......In general pistons dont jsut break(unless it was a major manufacturing error) i would expect that the engine would seize or spin a bearing. Now running too much boost can cause a lean condition killing a piston. i have not heard of my 4g63 pistons jsut breaking.
to mee your conditions and symptoms dont appear to add up..
2. When you took it to the mitsu shop in gainsville the damage was already done.
3. You tried to take it to another Mitsu dealer in orl Sport mitsu
If you had you oil changed at the ford dealer and you were way low on oil, you should be talking to them to find out why they didnt change it correctly. ie fill to specified level, forgot to install the drain plug, didnt tighten the oil filter. etc.
in addition as stated before mitsu is stating the damage was due to neglect; so if your oil was sow low as to cause engine failure you should have noticed it due to the oil light comming on on your dash. IE neglect.
You have not given any specifics on the exact damage stated by mitsu or how your oil was that low in the first place.
Now if what you are saying is true and the piston just broke, which is possible due to manufacturer defect, than they would have to replace. but it sounds like you have more damage than you are willing to fess up to.......In general pistons dont jsut break(unless it was a major manufacturing error) i would expect that the engine would seize or spin a bearing. Now running too much boost can cause a lean condition killing a piston. i have not heard of my 4g63 pistons jsut breaking.
to mee your conditions and symptoms dont appear to add up..
i made a post right after my pics stating that it's a FORD AND MITSUBISHI dealership. in the service area there are mitsus and fords being worked on.
i had originally BOUGHT the car at sport mitsu, then i MOVED to gainesville for UF. gville dealership were the first to deny warranty, then the car was towed to sport to see what they could do, and all the could do was give me an estimate on how much a new engine costs. my car was stock, there were no reports in my 3,000 mile oil change that the car had modifications, which is why i take my car to the dealer to get it serviced in the first place, so that they can see it is still stock.
funny you should mention the oil light.... IT NEVER CAME ON... and even today at this very hour if u turn the car on, it turns on making a horrendous noise but actually runs, and the oil light is still not on, yet the car still barely runs, no oil light or check engine light.
mitsu's explanation? "there's no way the car would've lasted if they messed up on how much oil they put in, and the only time the oil light will come on is when there is absolutely NO oil in the car" both of which are lies given to me by the service manager at the gville dealership.
i had originally BOUGHT the car at sport mitsu, then i MOVED to gainesville for UF. gville dealership were the first to deny warranty, then the car was towed to sport to see what they could do, and all the could do was give me an estimate on how much a new engine costs. my car was stock, there were no reports in my 3,000 mile oil change that the car had modifications, which is why i take my car to the dealer to get it serviced in the first place, so that they can see it is still stock.
funny you should mention the oil light.... IT NEVER CAME ON... and even today at this very hour if u turn the car on, it turns on making a horrendous noise but actually runs, and the oil light is still not on, yet the car still barely runs, no oil light or check engine light.
mitsu's explanation? "there's no way the car would've lasted if they messed up on how much oil they put in, and the only time the oil light will come on is when there is absolutely NO oil in the car" both of which are lies given to me by the service manager at the gville dealership.
Then you should be talking to that dealership and not putting down sport.
They are doing their jobs correctly when they check the info on your car before doing any kind of service.
but it still sounds odd that a piston is dead.
if what you are saying is true,
the oil light doesnt come on,
you had your oil changed by the FORD MITSU dealer
and the actual engine failure was do to low oil, then yes they should replace it....
if the actual failure was due to low oil; it sounds like a specific dealers fault due to improper oil change not mitsu or sport, mitsu might have to pony up some cash for a failed oil light. However the piston thing still sounds a little funny i would expect a different type of damage...
oh well this is boring me.
They are doing their jobs correctly when they check the info on your car before doing any kind of service.
but it still sounds odd that a piston is dead.
if what you are saying is true,
the oil light doesnt come on,
you had your oil changed by the FORD MITSU dealer
and the actual engine failure was do to low oil, then yes they should replace it....
if the actual failure was due to low oil; it sounds like a specific dealers fault due to improper oil change not mitsu or sport, mitsu might have to pony up some cash for a failed oil light. However the piston thing still sounds a little funny i would expect a different type of damage...
oh well this is boring me.
Originally posted by evo8ya
autoxer thats the way i feel...but obviuosly that dealership felt otherwise..geez just read the way Baja10 ,an employee, talks about his customers
autoxer thats the way i feel...but obviuosly that dealership felt otherwise..geez just read the way Baja10 ,an employee, talks about his customers
:*-( you just stated that we didnt deny you first that the gainsville mitsu store denied you due to the oil. How come in your VERY FIRST POST you never mentioned any of this.
liquid7879
IM OUT
how come u guys havent done A THING to help me out? all u've done is given me estimates, after making promises that u guys would do ur best.
i truly believed i had found the once in a while GREAT dealership, however i only bought into your BS. u guys said this would be painless and that u'd take care of it, when in fact all u've done is swim in the money i've given u. justify the $1000 STOCK clutch u guys made me pay for, since u swore putting in an aftermarket clutch would deny my warranty.
there's a reason sport is on the boycott dealer list... it's cuz they're a bunch of crooks.
one last thing, you're NOT the guy i gave a test drive in the wrx. he DOESNT work in sales. this just PROVES how anyone could just take someone else's identity in a forum. also that guy ASKED me to take him on a "joyride" (quoted as verbatim) and wanted to see me launch to "see my skills." for u to take his identity and bad mouth him proves how u guys are crooks.
whoever u are baja10, thanks for nothing
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this is how a real dealership that takes care of it's customers responds: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...hreadid=402958
i truly believed i had found the once in a while GREAT dealership, however i only bought into your BS. u guys said this would be painless and that u'd take care of it, when in fact all u've done is swim in the money i've given u. justify the $1000 STOCK clutch u guys made me pay for, since u swore putting in an aftermarket clutch would deny my warranty.
there's a reason sport is on the boycott dealer list... it's cuz they're a bunch of crooks.
one last thing, you're NOT the guy i gave a test drive in the wrx. he DOESNT work in sales. this just PROVES how anyone could just take someone else's identity in a forum. also that guy ASKED me to take him on a "joyride" (quoted as verbatim) and wanted to see me launch to "see my skills." for u to take his identity and bad mouth him proves how u guys are crooks.
whoever u are baja10, thanks for nothing
EDIT:
this is how a real dealership that takes care of it's customers responds: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...hreadid=402958
Last edited by :*-(; Oct 22, 2003 at 06:38 PM.
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Originally posted by liquid7879
From the way i understand it its not thaat he was a qt low or even that he didnt take it to have the oil changed.
when he took it to the first shop it was near empty on oil etc..
when he brought it to mitsu the damage was already done and had nothing to do with making an oil change interval.....
From the way i understand it its not thaat he was a qt low or even that he didnt take it to have the oil changed.
when he took it to the first shop it was near empty on oil etc..
when he brought it to mitsu the damage was already done and had nothing to do with making an oil change interval.....
i just dont know what to say anymore..there are alot more complaints about dealers than praise from all of us evo owners out there..i just hope after the money i spent the dealer never gives me a hard time..i mean come on these dealership employees act like its money outta there pocket..i think that 90% of car salesman or whatever they call themselves are just jelous.. cause they dont own an evo..i dont know i could be wrong
car was not modified... and i was not racing it. i was on the highway coming back from a group study for my CGS 2531 class... i even have witnessess willing to back me up.
no one can tell me how it drank so much oil... no one wants to take the motor apart.
funny thing i wanna add, the service manager said "oh, well i also found a boost gauge in your glove box, mitsu is gonna use that against u"
THE BOOST GAUGE WAS UNHOOKED, THERE WERE NO VACCUUM HOSES OR ANYTHING ATTACHED, AND IT'S NOT EVEN MINE. MY FRIEND EVEN ADMITTED THAT IT WAS HIS.
no one deserves the treatment i received
no one can tell me how it drank so much oil... no one wants to take the motor apart.
funny thing i wanna add, the service manager said "oh, well i also found a boost gauge in your glove box, mitsu is gonna use that against u"
THE BOOST GAUGE WAS UNHOOKED, THERE WERE NO VACCUUM HOSES OR ANYTHING ATTACHED, AND IT'S NOT EVEN MINE. MY FRIEND EVEN ADMITTED THAT IT WAS HIS.
no one deserves the treatment i received
I view this as a personal thing the dealership has against the customer. Apparently they were upset when they found he traded in his wrx that had a burnt clutch and bald tires, which is not his problem since they accepted it. Then he smokes his clutch on the evo, and they replace it and he burns up their seats. LOL. This must have angered them further.
Now his engine blows, and they have no proof of modification to his car and they hold this grudge against him. I'd go up to the manager beat him for being a *****, then let him beat you out for the clutch and bald tires. That’s how this should be settled.
Even though we don't know what :*-( did to the car to make it break, and the dealership holds a grudge on him, they should still fix the car and stop being jackasses.
Now his engine blows, and they have no proof of modification to his car and they hold this grudge against him. I'd go up to the manager beat him for being a *****, then let him beat you out for the clutch and bald tires. That’s how this should be settled.
Even though we don't know what :*-( did to the car to make it break, and the dealership holds a grudge on him, they should still fix the car and stop being jackasses.
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:*-(,
Unless you're lying or obscuring facts, I would get your parents to get a lawyer for you. The dealer is breaking the law and is treating you like this because 1) you're young, 2) you have money (easy target), and 3) they think they can get away with it.
Unless you're lying or obscuring facts, I would get your parents to get a lawyer for you. The dealer is breaking the law and is treating you like this because 1) you're young, 2) you have money (easy target), and 3) they think they can get away with it.


