is it worth getting a twin disk clutch?
I should be about the 350awhp marker after my tune and as of right now my stock clutch is slipping. I plan on buying just a stock brand new clutch disc only and going with that. Once I hit the 400 marker, then I will upgrade my clutch to a twin disc. I want the power, but am dreading the amount I will have to pay to maintain it.
MAP is having a great deal on that clutch now. I got mine for $500 they run for $680 or so.
Everything is a compromise. Don't listen to everyone saying go twin or go home. Do you like replacing your clutch packs every 10-30k miles depening on your driving habits?
Twins are generally used for their low weight inertia and high burst resistance. Lockout is caused when the clutch disc is too heavy for the input shaft to slow down for the next ratio. Clutch discs like act, with their steel backing, can cause this. Twin disc clutches are great, but are murdered when daily driven (esp when its stop-and-go conditions.)
For a dd you need an organic face that can take the slipping and not burr off into oblivion. You could go for a pucked single that can sometimes hold more torque than some twins but they have crap slipping characteristics.
Everything is a compromise. You can't have a 400wtq car that shifts at 8k+ and uses a clutch that lasts 50k+ miles.
Twins are generally used for their low weight inertia and high burst resistance. Lockout is caused when the clutch disc is too heavy for the input shaft to slow down for the next ratio. Clutch discs like act, with their steel backing, can cause this. Twin disc clutches are great, but are murdered when daily driven (esp when its stop-and-go conditions.)
For a dd you need an organic face that can take the slipping and not burr off into oblivion. You could go for a pucked single that can sometimes hold more torque than some twins but they have crap slipping characteristics.
Everything is a compromise. You can't have a 400wtq car that shifts at 8k+ and uses a clutch that lasts 50k+ miles.
get the twin disk if you can afford it. my evo is pretty much stock, its my dd, but i also drag race and recently got into time attack events. after the stock clutch went, i decided to just go with the twin disk cuz of the mods that i have planned. to me, its just made more sense.
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i dont and wont have the money for a twin disk and im prob not gonna mod my evo anymore at all i just want it to run good for a long time and i barley beat on it.
also can i just get a new disk and keep the stock orginal pressure plate thats the cheapest way of doing this. i dont want a really heavy pedal since i drive my evo everyday.
also can i just get a new disk and keep the stock orginal pressure plate thats the cheapest way of doing this. i dont want a really heavy pedal since i drive my evo everyday.
Last edited by speedfreak24; Feb 3, 2010 at 04:34 PM.
you guys do realize that twin disks barely last if daily driven right??? The most those things last is 20-30k miles, now do you really want to rebuild a $1600 clutch after that milage?? oh yeah the rebuild kit is around $1000, so you figure it out. For 300whp to 400whp you will be fine with an act, and i am 1000% sure on that cause i seen that kind of power being put down on a single disk hundreds of time. You might not be able to shift at 8000 rpm with a single disk, BUT at 7500 rpm you will be fine.
Oh, I am at ~23,000 miles on my twin and there is 0 signs of slipping, no grinds, whining, anything and I have the 6 speed too.
Also, 1000 dollars to rebuild it is a bit steep, don't you think? If just the clutch end plates are worn out, and no other issues you can buy the kit for $400.00. The middle plate is another ~$150.00 and the other plate surface can be found for ~$150.00 too. So, if you have completely roasted the clutch, worst case you can buy the parts for under $800.00 (even lancershop carries it: http://www.lancershop.com/customer/p...cat=113&page=1 ) but you can find deals much better than that on here. So worst case its $800.00, best case its ~$400.00. All that and you have the capability of DAILY driving a car capable of ~11 second passes.
Sounds like a pretty good deal to me... don't you think?
Last edited by buchnerj; Feb 3, 2010 at 04:59 PM.
i dont and wont have the money for a twin disk and im prob not gonna mod my evo anymore at all i just want it to run good for a long time and i barley beat on it.
also can i just get a new disk and keep the stock orginal pressure plate thats the cheapest way of doing this. i dont want a really heavy pedal since i drive my evo everyday.
also can i just get a new disk and keep the stock orginal pressure plate thats the cheapest way of doing this. i dont want a really heavy pedal since i drive my evo everyday.
You can replace the clutch with an OEM one from Exedy, or just got the ACT route. If you are not revving it higher than 7000k then you will be fine with an ACT. Even some who do use it in high RPM applications have had success, but there are many failures also. Just go shopping for an Exedy single and call it a day, it will hold it, be smooth and last a long while if you ACTUALLY baby the car.
Good luck
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thanks dude i can still drive my evo just fine now and hope it stays that way for a couple months but i can't boost it or it just slips. but im saving on the gas now plus its too cold out to be racing around like an idiot. even though my blizacks grip nice in the cold.
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I have a Carbonectics Tripple and I DD my car (soon to be a garage queen).....30k later, went form stock boost levels to 397 whp just as much torque and it still holds. Jumping up to 500-550 this summer and I don't expect to have to rebuild until later this year or hopefully next year. I don't launch my car but I do get on it.
I have a Carbonectics Tripple and I DD my car (soon to be a garage queen).....30k later, went form stock boost levels to 397 whp just as much torque and it still holds. Jumping up to 500-550 this summer and I don't expect to have to rebuild until later this year or hopefully next year. I don't launch my car but I do get on it.
I have the ACT MB7-HDG6. I am very happy with this clutch and I think you would be too. It has a nearly stock like pedal pressure, it can be slipped smoothly but still has a good bite.
sorry a bit off topic but I have to ask. Who is buying and EVO nevermind upping their power with thousands in mods so they can baby it? We gotta be honest here. If you wanted to baby your car get a G35 or 328/335 something with a softer suspension. Its was made so they would have a good starting point a for a rally car.


