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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 12:26 PM
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if you keep on moding it i would just get the twin disc, and you wont have to worry about taking it all apart again, the more you take apart the more bolts you loose LOL
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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by sgt_petty_210
I should be about the 350awhp marker after my tune and as of right now my stock clutch is slipping. I plan on buying just a stock brand new clutch disc only and going with that. Once I hit the 400 marker, then I will upgrade my clutch to a twin disc. I want the power, but am dreading the amount I will have to pay to maintain it.
Why not get an aftermarket clutch that will grip better than stock? I'm currently at 350 and will be getting single disc Fidanza 3.2 and Comp flywheel. It should hold up to 450tq.

MAP is having a great deal on that clutch now. I got mine for $500 they run for $680 or so.
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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 12:50 PM
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Everything is a compromise. Don't listen to everyone saying go twin or go home. Do you like replacing your clutch packs every 10-30k miles depening on your driving habits?

Twins are generally used for their low weight inertia and high burst resistance. Lockout is caused when the clutch disc is too heavy for the input shaft to slow down for the next ratio. Clutch discs like act, with their steel backing, can cause this. Twin disc clutches are great, but are murdered when daily driven (esp when its stop-and-go conditions.)

For a dd you need an organic face that can take the slipping and not burr off into oblivion. You could go for a pucked single that can sometimes hold more torque than some twins but they have crap slipping characteristics.

Everything is a compromise. You can't have a 400wtq car that shifts at 8k+ and uses a clutch that lasts 50k+ miles.
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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 12:51 PM
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get the twin disk if you can afford it. my evo is pretty much stock, its my dd, but i also drag race and recently got into time attack events. after the stock clutch went, i decided to just go with the twin disk cuz of the mods that i have planned. to me, its just made more sense.
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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 04:30 PM
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i dont and wont have the money for a twin disk and im prob not gonna mod my evo anymore at all i just want it to run good for a long time and i barley beat on it.

also can i just get a new disk and keep the stock orginal pressure plate thats the cheapest way of doing this. i dont want a really heavy pedal since i drive my evo everyday.

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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 04:53 PM
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you guys do realize that twin disks barely last if daily driven right??? The most those things last is 20-30k miles, now do you really want to rebuild a $1600 clutch after that milage?? oh yeah the rebuild kit is around $1000, so you figure it out. For 300whp to 400whp you will be fine with an act, and i am 1000% sure on that cause i seen that kind of power being put down on a single disk hundreds of time. You might not be able to shift at 8000 rpm with a single disk, BUT at 7500 rpm you will be fine.
20-30k miles for a clutch that is rated to hold up to ~600 foot pounds of torque at the flywheel is great. Thats almost 3 years of my driving. I DD my Exedy twin HD and love it to death. I am only at 450 torque, but still, those who are less than that who aspire to get up into the 400-500 range should just buy it once and then they can forget about it. You will never need another clutch again, and if you go over what the twin can hold, they even offer an upgrade kit to convert it to a triple so it can hold even more. You don't need to buy a whole new clutch, just a kit to upgrade it. Can your ACT do that? The Exedy clutches only have one known issue and that is the fork pulling the TOB clip out, which many have a solution for. (Some include it for free if you buy from them: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...-shipping.html )

Oh, I am at ~23,000 miles on my twin and there is 0 signs of slipping, no grinds, whining, anything and I have the 6 speed too.

Also, 1000 dollars to rebuild it is a bit steep, don't you think? If just the clutch end plates are worn out, and no other issues you can buy the kit for $400.00. The middle plate is another ~$150.00 and the other plate surface can be found for ~$150.00 too. So, if you have completely roasted the clutch, worst case you can buy the parts for under $800.00 (even lancershop carries it: http://www.lancershop.com/customer/p...cat=113&page=1 ) but you can find deals much better than that on here. So worst case its $800.00, best case its ~$400.00. All that and you have the capability of DAILY driving a car capable of ~11 second passes.

Sounds like a pretty good deal to me... don't you think?

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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by speedfreak24
i dont and wont have the money for a twin disk and im prob not gonna mod my evo anymore at all i just want it to run good for a long time and i barley beat on it.

also can i just get a new disk and keep the stock orginal pressure plate thats the cheapest way of doing this. i dont want a really heavy pedal since i drive my evo everyday.
Well, you just answered your own question then. If you will never get up to the power levels of needing a twin, then it is totally unnecessary. If you had future plans to mod it higher (in the next couple of years), I would say go for it. You are better off just buying one clutch that you will ever need for the life of your car, over buying one, then having to fork over the money for the twin later.

You can replace the clutch with an OEM one from Exedy, or just got the ACT route. If you are not revving it higher than 7000k then you will be fine with an ACT. Even some who do use it in high RPM applications have had success, but there are many failures also. Just go shopping for an Exedy single and call it a day, it will hold it, be smooth and last a long while if you ACTUALLY baby the car.

Good luck
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 03:49 PM
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thanks dude i can still drive my evo just fine now and hope it stays that way for a couple months but i can't boost it or it just slips. but im saving on the gas now plus its too cold out to be racing around like an idiot. even though my blizacks grip nice in the cold.
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 06:55 AM
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I have a Carbonectics Tripple and I DD my car (soon to be a garage queen).....30k later, went form stock boost levels to 397 whp just as much torque and it still holds. Jumping up to 500-550 this summer and I don't expect to have to rebuild until later this year or hopefully next year. I don't launch my car but I do get on it.
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Green Meanie
I have a Carbonectics Tripple and I DD my car (soon to be a garage queen).....30k later, went form stock boost levels to 397 whp just as much torque and it still holds. Jumping up to 500-550 this summer and I don't expect to have to rebuild until later this year or hopefully next year. I don't launch my car but I do get on it.
From just reading the beginning of your post, I said to myself, "Holy ****. A triple disc clutch for only 400 hp." Then I realized you were upping it in the near future. I hope your build goes well and the clutch lasts. Spending a good amount of money on the right clutch for your future needs instead of purchasing two will save you money and a headache of pulling the tranny multiple times.
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 09:02 AM
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I have the ACT MB7-HDG6. I am very happy with this clutch and I think you would be too. It has a nearly stock like pedal pressure, it can be slipped smoothly but still has a good bite.
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 10:08 AM
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i got the twin disc excedy. works pretty good in my book
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 03:00 PM
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Just got the excedy twin disc installed today. Gotta get used to this clutch.
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Green Meanie
I have a Carbonectics Tripple and I DD my car
i got the same one for my evo
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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 12:17 PM
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sorry a bit off topic but I have to ask. Who is buying and EVO nevermind upping their power with thousands in mods so they can baby it? We gotta be honest here. If you wanted to baby your car get a G35 or 328/335 something with a softer suspension. Its was made so they would have a good starting point a for a rally car.
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