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Old May 11, 2011 | 06:31 PM
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I'm in the market for some struts also. Biggest problem buying used one's are they could go bad at anytime after you put them on. Can't believe there are no replacements by other companies. KYB makes some but they only fit Lancers. Too bad since I can buy 2 for under $200. Anyone know why they don't work for the Evo? Even on there site they do not list an Evo front strut and they made them for Mitsubishi. I was given a whole set of low mile shocks and struts (15,000 miles) as extras when I bought my car. I had a blown right Strut so I changed it out. Well 1 year later now that one is making the same clunking noise. The other front I have looks like there is oil leaking from it so I'm not even going to swap it out. So it is looking like I will have to buy new KYB's or Bilstiens.
The Bilstiens are rebuildable/revalvable so even used isn't a bad option.
Old May 11, 2011 | 06:56 PM
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whoever told u you cant get them for an 03, is sellin u some rubbish. I got mine through here by a company called APM racing. They are interchangable, now go through him to buy them, because what you dont know and i found this out is bilstein sold a lot of wrong sized rear struts....APM told me this, and took a few weeks longer, but im running tein stech springs( ya i know), and stock upper mounts...so far so good...only problem is green springs yellow struts and red calipers, no color coordination there haha
Old May 11, 2011 | 07:01 PM
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save yourself the money and get a used set of coilovers. you want it low, just do it the right way. just blew the struts on my evo too..... dont want to go through the headache again because of my lowering springs so i just bought coils
Old May 11, 2011 | 07:19 PM
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do yourself a favor and don't listen to the guy running s-techs on his Bilstein struts

Originally Posted by dastallion951
whoever told u you cant get them for an 03, is sellin u some rubbish. I got mine through here by a company called APM racing. They are interchangable, now go through him to buy them, because what you dont know and i found this out is bilstein sold a lot of wrong sized rear struts....APM told me this, and took a few weeks longer, but im running tein stech springs( ya i know), and stock upper mounts...so far so good...only problem is green springs yellow struts and red calipers, no color coordination there haha
and APM is the only place on earth that knows this? If they were wrong I think there would be more information out there about it
Old May 12, 2011 | 08:32 AM
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dont listen to me chaotichoax, what do i know? I know probably a lot more then you do. I bought my stechs cuz i got them for 100 with only 500 miles on them. Im not sayin APM is the only shop that knows this however the original rear struts i was gonna have them send me, the whole housing of the struts were 2" shorter, meaning bolt holes werent lining up. Bilstein did know of this, but still shipped some out reguardless. So unless a shop knows of this issue, you as the customer wouldnt know till installing, and when your installing and everythign is apart then to find out the parts wont fit. Any customer would be pissed off. How many people on here have bought Bilsteins in the past 6 months, most go cheap on coilovers, yet your givin me crap cuz i put a low spring on a very good strut. Get out of here meter maid. Dont think your better then cuz your not.
Old May 12, 2011 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by dastallion951
im running tein stech springs( ya i know), and stock upper mounts...so far so good...only problem is green springs yellow struts and red calipers, no color coordination there haha
if you think your only problem is color coordination and not the fact the stechs handle like *** and worsen the handling characteristics of these cars compared to stock. you've got to rethink a few things lol. Chaotic is right i wouldnt listen to a word you say
Old May 12, 2011 | 01:19 PM
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well personally i dont give a fu*k if you listen to me or not but my car handles better then stock. I bet it would outhandle you car, so you can keep your ignorant comments to yourself. as for the color coordination it was just a joke. So you can listen to me because i've spent good money on my ride, so you can take your cheap coilovers you prolly bought and shove them where the sun dont shine.
Old May 12, 2011 | 01:54 PM
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wow...i was just sorta looking for info on shocks, didnt want to start an argument! lol i appreciate the input from everyone though! i actually have swift spec-r springs already on my car which is why the stock shocks went to $hit. i just wanna know if the heavy duty bilstien shocks will be able to be applied with those with no problem. i would get coilovers (and u can call me cheap) but i really dont wanna spend the money since i already have the springs and i like the ride they have provided me with, and if i were to get coils i wouldnt get some cheap crap lol. i also dont race on a track on a regular basis(or at all for that matter) so i wanted to stick with something simple. the website again is http://www.eshocks.com/bil_veh.asp?M...tein&SubChar=Q and i dont think ill everrr find a better deal than that. keep me posted fellas! thanks!!
Old May 12, 2011 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by dastallion951
well personally i dont give a fu*k if you listen to me or not but my car handles better then stock. I bet it would outhandle you car, so you can keep your ignorant comments to yourself. as for the color coordination it was just a joke. So you can listen to me because i've spent good money on my ride, so you can take your cheap coilovers you prolly bought and shove them where the sun dont shine.
You call his coilovers cheap when you say that you bought the s-tech's because they were cheap and only had a few miles on them? lol

also, i doubt blisten fudged up a bunch of struts. if they did, none of them got installed on anyones cars. pretty sure someone would notice a 2" drop on the rear end.

lastly, your car "handles better than stock" through normal turns maybe because you're riding the bump-stops so it feels super stiff and the body feels like it's not rolling much.

keep thinking what you want, let us know how that new set of blistens works out when you blow these ones
Old May 12, 2011 | 05:21 PM
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Yea the stechs had 500 miles on them when i bought them whats your point demon, savin a hundred to two hundred on the springs is one thing, but id rather have good struts with not so good springs, then junkie coilovers that have problems with the strut housing lock nuts loosen up. Yea actually they did you really think a companys gonna fess up that they screwed up with somethin in the production line. Not unless someone reports an issue, maybe your not gettin it demon, when i mean 2" shorter i mean the struts didnt line up to the bolt holes, meaning the housing of the struts in the rear were shorter then they needed to be, so no bolting in on a lot of them they sold. Honestly man, i know the difference between good handling and riding bumpstops, im not a suspension guru by any means, however ive got more experience with workin in the automotive field then you have. So insert your foot in your mouth man, cuz I could care less what you say. Not for anything man, if the stechs blow struts, tell me how i got 78k out of my stock struts and mounts with almost 45k on those springs and they barely went bad. If bilstein makes such a good struts that holds up to a lot of abuse, i believe the struts will take it like your girl in a gangbang haha
Old May 12, 2011 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by dastallion951
Yea the stechs had 500 miles on them when i bought them whats your point demon, savin a hundred to two hundred on the springs is one thing, but id rather have good struts with not so good springs, then junkie coilovers that have problems with the strut housing lock nuts loosen up. Yea actually they did you really think a companys gonna fess up that they screwed up with somethin in the production line. Not unless someone reports an issue, maybe your not gettin it demon, when i mean 2" shorter i mean the struts didnt line up to the bolt holes, meaning the housing of the struts in the rear were shorter then they needed to be, so no bolting in on a lot of them they sold. Honestly man, i know the difference between good handling and riding bumpstops, im not a suspension guru by any means, however ive got more experience with workin in the automotive field then you have. So insert your foot in your mouth man, cuz I could care less what you say. Not for anything man, if the stechs blow struts, tell me how i got 78k out of my stock struts and mounts with almost 45k on those springs and they barely went bad. If bilstein makes such a good struts that holds up to a lot of abuse, i believe the struts will take it like your girl in a gangbang haha
Your struts are most likely blown from riding on those awesome Tein S-Techs
Old May 12, 2011 | 05:46 PM
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DUDE TEIN SPRINGS SUUUUUCK..it has been proven 10000s of times, i had a brand new set and a used set and they are HOOOOORRIBLE, so get off the high horse and accept the fact they are not the number one choice springs for evos...quit arguing with the guys about it.

OP the best combo i have found is belsteins and swift springs. I dont know how the roads are in your state, but for dd and some tracking this combo is pretty good.
Old May 12, 2011 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by dastallion951
. Honestly man, i know the difference between good handling and riding bumpstops, im not a suspension guru by any means, however ive got more experience with workin in the automotive field then you have.
Well, it's not about riding bumpstops, although some owners have reported this. It is about the springs causing the struts to operate outside of their range, resulting in blowing the struts.

I respect that you work in the automotive field, that is something I could not do because I get frustrated too easily and couldn't beat the book times. Because you work in the automotive industry, you know the value of R&D more so than most of the consumers on this forum. You've probably seen a lot of poorly designed parts fail or cause other parts to fail. That is what is being reported with the Teins. Maybe you got lucky with your mileage, or maybe it only affects cars that are driven at the limit during autocross or open track events, or maybe New Jersey-type roads or factory shock variances.

The fact is, that those who are suspension gurus, those people who work for tuners, race setup providers and retailers, and racers of all levels, have said that the Tiens are not the best spring offered for handling, and that the drop is so low that it wears the struts out prematurely.

As the OP was specifically complaining about a blown struts and shocks, the suggestions made by this forum to stay away from the Teins is relevant.

I'm glad that you got a deal on your S-techs and that you are happy with them, and that comment about the gangbang was pretty funny.
Old May 12, 2011 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by dastallion951
well personally i dont give a fu*k if you listen to me or not but my car handles better then stock. I bet it would outhandle you car, so you can keep your ignorant comments to yourself. as for the color coordination it was just a joke. So you can listen to me because i've spent good money on my ride, so you can take your cheap coilovers you prolly bought and shove them where the sun dont shine.
i dont have any coils im still on stock springs, so yes i do handle better than you to answer the original question and get back on topic the bilsteins you linked up WILL work for an 03 and for 700 new thats a great price.
Old May 13, 2011 | 08:58 AM
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well to be honest man i never recommended the tein stechs to him, all I said was I have them on my car, and I havent had an issue, thats all I pretty much was getting at. I didnt want this thread to start into a ish talking war at all. So op you can do what you want, just buy a good strut/spring combo and leave it at that.

and btw warstang

i dont have any coils im still on stock springs, so yes i do handle better than you
you just sounded like a retard right there.
Go back to your rustang, and leave the evos to the real men



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