Okay so currently im gonna be doing the first tuning I have the following
Injen Intake upper and lower piping, down pipe, test pipe and HKS back exhaust. 1000cc injectors (not instilled cuz not tuned) fuel pump. (on order cams, valves spring retainer)

Now i want to order in the cam gears, fuel rail, exhaust manfold, intake manfoild and without killing myself turbo kit. Now i notice they run all over the place on pricing yes i know HKS AMS and such kits from past projects on other cars. I am not fimilar with Tomei Kits. Now i notice they have the biggest kit blah blah M7960 Kit which claimes can get over 400hp etc... now the kit looks pretty good and price even better but after reading this

http://www.importtuner.com/powerpage..._ix/index.html

and well they have done other article and couldnt find but what I got was..

but with baseline starting 358hp 288tq
because an article i couldnt find of the list they already added

but adding the turbo kit, cams, and the plasma pack and getting 382hp 376tq
a result of 24hp and 87tq ... Is the kit really an option to look at people having success with that kit. and is there more power to gain from it?


with what i have just ready for next step.

 

Your parts list or want to buy list is a bit backwards. Although I'm not sure if you're looking for recommendations on which parts to get and when.

But if you're looking for an easy 400hp on pump gas without breaking the bank, the stock framed turbos will do the trick.

You won't need cam gears, you won't need an intake manifold, you won't need an exhaust manifold.

Your parts already plus cam shafts, fuel pump, at least 3" core FMIC, stock framed turbo, and a boost controller will get you to 400hp if that's your ultimate goal.

 

cams i have ordered. and as far as fuel pump have that also. havent installed the injectors cuz i dont want to drive with a 1000cc on highway when nearest tuning shop is 1 1/2hrs away.. I havent even done the flash yet.. so your saying where I am at i should be close?

intercooler is also on the next list. i just saw that turbo and while it did the trick on TQ, 24hp (with cams added) i wasnt that impressed.

 

I'm certain a Green or bigger will get you there.

If you have access to E85, you can break 400 with the stock turbo.

I haven't heard much about the tomei turbo you referenced, so i'm not going to say that particular turbo will get you to 400.

i can say with confidence most of the FP series stock frame turbos will get you to 400 on 93 oct, as well some of the EF series turbos. EF3 and EF4 will definitely get you to 400. I'm not sure on the EF2. But there are some good threads on the RESULTS forum.

any of those turbos i listed will break 400 with good fuel (E85/98, race gas) easily.

if you're on a budget, stock frame turbos are the way to go. MAP's EF series are less expensive than the FP turbos IIRC. it's just a matter of swapping turbos and having enough air cooling and fueling. and a good tune obviously.

hope that helps

 

he can get 400 on 93oct on the stock turbo quite easy..

bov that doesn't leak
good set of cams
more efficient core fmic to cool air charge
ecu boost to control tq and allow more top end
preload wga a bit more
make sure the exhaust system is as free flowing as possible
and fuel to support it.

thats pretty much all it takes.. the evo 9 turbo is like an 18G td06h /w TS.

 

well to the first e85 as much as i would LOVE to hasnt hit northern ca. yet, hey maybe if my restaurant does better in next few years (damn freaking economy) (**** i should do an evo meet here give you guess a good place to meet and some good food I know i could use the business. right now i have the local import groups and corvette club, thats another issue) but i would love to tune for it just dont have any e85 shops close.

As far as mister 93 octane. Sorry in Cali limited to 91 so **** is really hard.. but we do have a few 100 octane at few 76 stations but the cost is EXPENSIVE!!! i know VP station has the 93 but none close. and the 100 octane thats only 10 mins away runs 100 Octane $7.80 a gallon.... yup ouchie

I notice the FP serious i see the colors and learning the difference and realize they are useing stock housing? so is it a direct bolt up or have to mod stuff. do either of you to know a good site or a nice place on here I can read up on knowledge of these things. Like I said when i first started. I have been in the import world many years built fast little cars straights and for turns.. but first getting into the evo/sti world and well motors and AWD is a little different lots to learn.

thank you guys ahead of time for your help.

Kevin

 

Correct FP series and MAP's EF series, or any stock framed turbo series, is designed to be a direct replacement for stock turbo.

Everything else can be stock and the turbo will bolt right up.

Evo 8's require the Evo 9's accessory kit.

 

+100000 this is perfect jus get those and you're golden

 

God why listen to that artical its a bunch of crap. The HP goals they got from all that crap they put on as Tom said can be reached with very few mods and a tune. I would be embarassed as hell to even print that on paper let alone have people read it and want to follow it. And that is the problem with these type of magazines. They are all geared twards people who drive honda's and such who have no idea first off of what there doing, let alone tell them to buy an expensive 20g, and prob the most expensive cams on the market, then some crap ignition yadda yadda.

 

thats why im asking questions i dont like to take a magazine words i love how lot of evo owners talk **** on hondas. but in all honest they set the way for import racing. to me its like saying fast and the furious is a crappy movie. Hate it or not because of that movie we have the evo, sti, gt-r and such someone has to make way.

next questions you say the FP serious fit will the stock exhaust manifold work or do i have to purchase and after market right away,. ???

again thanks for the help.. like the fact i can ask a question get answers other forums look down on you like your supposed to know all this already.. Again thank you!

 

You should talk to the planned tuner about your power goals, to supplement the information on the forum. I agree with everyone else that your part list should already be able to put down your power goals with a good tune.

 

I am not bashing you in the least please don't feel I am. I respect the fact you want to learn and do the right thing. Yes FP turbos will bolt right up to the stock mani. You should get Map to port the exhaust mani and intake mani being there port work is second to none.

 

Not sure I agree with that. The movie was made because the Hondas and WRX where already here. And Mitsubishi saw how successful the WRX was and then finally decided to bring the EVO here.
Please don't give that movie more credit than it deserves. :-)

 

^^ well to chime in hondas been around a while but what really paved the way for import performance, a lot has to do with dsms....or evo 1-3s over in japan. sure theyve been buttin heads with subarus since the late 80s. Fast and furious was about 6 years behind the real import movement. Besides it was filmed in LA where the predominance of hondas is overwhelmingly nasty, I say that because ive been out there numerous times. But hey there are some fast hondas, I just havent come across any. haha

 

You guys misunderstood what he's saying. He meant that Hondas helped pave the way for import drag racing in N. America.

You can't argue that.