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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 04:02 PM
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Oiled-Dirt-to-Tarmac-Understeer! Jeez!

So I was on a back road which was dirt but heavily oiled. I made the observation that the road was too smooth for a rarely traveled dirt road. Being so empty, I couldn't help but stop several times and dump some hard launches. FUN! The Evo just bites so great!

So then I rolled to the end of the dirt road and stopped at the stop sign. I prepared for a right hand turn and waited for traffic to clear. The road I'm about to enter is dry asphalt. Why not? Let's give it another hard launch.

Crap. This wasn't planned for. I drop the clutch at about 4K. As I hit the pavement, the oil picked up from the dirt road makes me slide like I'm on roller skates! The car understeers to the right and then left TWICE in BOTH directions before I can bring it straight and narrow. HOLY CRAP!

I've never experienced such poor handling! I was scared that a cop would see me sliding back and forth! Fortunately I barely left my lane and never got close to another car, but let me tell you, I was leaving some burnt-up oil debris/smell behind me. Anyone else been in this situation?
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 04:08 PM
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sounds more like oversteer to me
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 04:11 PM
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Uh, ya. Oversteer is what I meant. Thanks.
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 04:19 PM
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Re: Oiled-Dirt-to-Tarmac-Understeer! Jeez!

Originally posted by chopdaddy
Anyone else been in this situation?
This one time (at bandcamp ) I was on the drag strip with my old supercharged Mustang with nice hot sticky 275 DRs out back in 3rd gear doing about 80 getting ready to hit 4th and finish a low 12 second run when I hit a patch of oil the previous car had deposited. I was in the left lane and the back end started going left towards the wall. Kinda scarey at those sorts of speeds, but I just dumped the clutch and got off the power and slowly brought the back end back in. Not exactly along the same lines as your 'experience' but when there's oil around you're going to be struggling to keep straight.
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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 07:44 AM
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Re: Oiled-Dirt-to-Tarmac-Understeer! Jeez!

Originally posted by chopdaddy
I couldn't help but stop several times and dump some hard launches.

The road I'm about to enter is dry asphalt. Why not? Let's give it another hard launch.

I drop the clutch at about 4K.

I've never experienced such poor handling! I was scared that a cop would see me sliding back and forth! Fortunately I barely left my lane and never got close to another car
If you took an advanced driving course you'd learn that a change of surface like that can have a significant impact on handling. You might also learn in the driving school not to abuse your equipment. It's too bad a cop didn't see you as that would have added the last piece to your learning experience. At least it wasn't any more severe and didn't involve anyone else, so it was a pretty good learning experience even if it wasn't complete.
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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 08:57 AM
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Re: Oiled-Dirt-to-Tarmac-Understeer! Jeez!

Originally posted by chopdaddy
So I was on a back road...I couldn't help but stop several times and dump some hard launches. FUN! The Evo just bites so great!

So then I rolled to the end of the dirt road and stopped at the stop sign. I prepared for a right hand turn and waited for traffic to clear. The road I'm about to enter is dry asphalt. Why not? Let's give it another hard launch...I drop the clutch at about 4K.
And people wonder why the Evo clutch is "weak."

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If you took an advanced driving course you'd learn that a change of surface like that can have a significant impact on handling.
Exactly. You don't seem to have any idea how dangerous what you're describing is. You're lucky you didn't oversteer right into on-coming traffic and kill someone.

Emre
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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 09:00 AM
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Re: Oiled-Dirt-to-Tarmac-Understeer! Jeez!

I've never experienced such poor handling!

Thats not poor handling. Its poor driving
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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 11:42 AM
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Re: Re: Oiled-Dirt-to-Tarmac-Understeer! Jeez!

Originally posted by Jamdown



Thats not poor handling. Its poor driving
I think its poor handling. He handled the car poorly.

My 2 cents
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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 05:02 PM
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i think it was awesome driving. totally radical. dude.
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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 05:08 PM
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thats pretty sad........ poor evo
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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 07:50 PM
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Anyone wanna play with some soap under the tires??

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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 07:53 PM
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sounds to me like you were having fun enjoying YOUR car that YOU pay for.
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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 08:08 PM
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sounds to me like you were having fun enjoying YOUR car that YOU pay for.
Until he wipes out a BUSLOAD OF NUNS..
or a SCHOOL BUS..

Then who pays??
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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 01:08 PM
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i agree that he, we, everyone needs to be careful but i hate seeing people get attacked for sharing experiences. thats why a lot of people are affraid to post. if everyone was affraid to post then none of us will learn anything from this or any forum. i think he learned his lesson well before he posted. peace to all!
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Old Feb 1, 2004 | 09:45 PM
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So lemme get this straight...you slather up the tires on an oily dirt road, hit the tarmac to hard causing oversteer, and somehow its poor handling...plain ignorant driving
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