Alternator and Random Thoughts - Please Help
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OK. So this afternoon I was able to change the oil. I noticed that the residue on the oil drain plug was thicker than usual. I also noticed the oil that was drained in the container was more "magnetic" than the first oil container I checked with a magnet. Here are the pictures.




If those are hard pieces of metal attached to your oil drain plug magnet that engines done.. i cant tell what that picture is though its weird looking.
so those are the actual shaving pieces of the valve cover i guess.. thats so sad.
so those are the actual shaving pieces of the valve cover i guess.. thats so sad.
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Tom, it is weird looking. Very true. The best way that I can describe the feeling is that it feels like chocolate pudding. There are NO hard substances AT ALL in what I have found. When I pour out the oil from the filter, it is a grayish-brown color. I have bought a filter cutter from a good recommendation and was told that if a bearing was spun there would be goldish-bronze flakes, shavings, etc. The cutter should be here by the end of this week.
I would pull the oil pan. I had a friend who had a bad rod knock and when we drained the oil it was clean. Pulled the pan and there is all was. That exact metal paste and bearing material. You probably wont have bearing pieces but i would pull the pan.
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I will try to take a look at this before the end of the week, my friend.
if that stuff is not metal and its just sludge then you may be ok.. i get sludge on my magnet .. what magnet is it? mines a dimple.. they are strong and can pick up around 7lbs hanging off them.
i feel theres no need to remove the oil pan to see if you spun a bearing or not.. for one thing if you spun a bearing you would know it.. it sounds horrible.. it would sound like theres someone in your engine trying to get themselves out hitting the block with a hammer.
if you drain oil you will see gold shavings as i said above.. same thing your buddy said.
the shavings would be on that magnet anyways..
does the car knock? does it have rod knock?
i feel theres no need to remove the oil pan to see if you spun a bearing or not.. for one thing if you spun a bearing you would know it.. it sounds horrible.. it would sound like theres someone in your engine trying to get themselves out hitting the block with a hammer.
if you drain oil you will see gold shavings as i said above.. same thing your buddy said.
the shavings would be on that magnet anyways..
does the car knock? does it have rod knock?
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if that stuff is not metal and its just sludge then you may be ok.. i get sludge on my magnet .. what magnet is it? mines a dimple.. they are strong and can pick up around 7lbs hanging off them.
i feel theres no need to remove the oil pan to see if you spun a bearing or not.. for one thing if you spun a bearing you would know it.. it sounds horrible.. it would sound like theres someone in your engine trying to get themselves out hitting the block with a hammer.
if you drain oil you will see gold shavings as i said above.. same thing your buddy said.
the shavings would be on that magnet anyways..
does the car knock? does it have rod knock?
i feel theres no need to remove the oil pan to see if you spun a bearing or not.. for one thing if you spun a bearing you would know it.. it sounds horrible.. it would sound like theres someone in your engine trying to get themselves out hitting the block with a hammer.
if you drain oil you will see gold shavings as i said above.. same thing your buddy said.
the shavings would be on that magnet anyways..
does the car knock? does it have rod knock?
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I checked the in-line filter today when I got home from work. I sprayed some WD40 through it and noticed several bronze shavings. I guess this makes it official that I have spun a bearing, right?
I am still curious to find out what's in the oil filter but it does sound like bearing material man... sorry
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For the in-line filter, it was more like dust particles. I did cut the oil filter open last night and saw a few small chips. I will post the picture later. When I get home, and since no good football team is playing, I will drop the pan for further verification.
yes now you should remove the pan to check.. it will show tons of shavings if you really did.. i don't think you did yet though based on the stuff you're seeing.. and if you did, then you caught it really early before it could do any damage.
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Yesterday evening, I went to see about dropping the oil pan and after seeing the various parts I would have to remove to get to it coupled with the free time I have (which is not a lot), I said, "Bump it...!" I bolted everything back down and currently giving the mini battery a good charge. I have checked both filters and the oil twice without finding hardly anything. I am firing the car up when I get home from work today and just going to let it run until it melts, blows up, or something else catastrophic. I have listened to all that you have said and speculated, but I have too much invested in this car to sell it without knowing 100% that the engine is trashed from a spun bearing.



