Ding

 

I use the Jay's tool set the few I have done. Nice to have the cams locked in place. Can certainly be done without though.

 

So if your careful and use the Jays/AMS tool and set it up TDC, can you carefully remove the old belt and install the new one?

 

timing marks on cam gear should line up with valve cover. timing marks at the bottom on the oil sprocket and crank sprocket should line up as well. This applies to 4g63 motors. If you have a built 4g64 block, then the marks wont necessarily line up - theres a theread talking about timing on 4g64 blocks

yes, follow the how to's on here, there's 2 different ones I believe

 

I have read from dsm tuners that the relationship of the oil pump sprocket does not matter, just the crank, balancing shaft, and cam gears

 

If it was off a tooth you'd know lol it would be ticking or clacking loud... Since you said it fired up im sure its fine.

 

Im not sure, but you're probably correct

 

You'll want it to be in phase. If ir is 180 out you'll know it when you take the car for it's first drive.

You can do the screwdriver trick in the inspection hole. (You'll have to remove the DP IIRC on a stock turbo set up

Or

Put dot on oil pump sprocket at 12 O'Clock if the sprocket wants to turn CCW your in phase if it wants to move CW it's 180* out, turn it 360 and it'll wanna go CCW and you'll be in phase.

Works every time haha

 

Yeah, well you are reading incorrect information.

The oil pump sprocket it tied to a front balance shaft and if it is not lined up then the counterweight will not be in "time" and can vibrate the engine.

The only time that the sprocket orientation doesn't matter is when you have a balance shaft removal kit installed, either a concentric shaft with no weight, or a mirage stub shaft. In that case, you would not even have a rear balance shaft installed so that information you read is wrong in several ways.

 

Yup. Because I told the OP to use a timing gun....

Line up the marks, fire it up, use a scan tool and double check your timing.

 

There will be no piston to valve interference on one tooth off, so there would not be any "ticking or clacking", but it would not run very well.

 

There is no double checking the timing after its fired up on these engines. Your risking a very expensive disaster. After the belt is installed and before you install the covers, rotate the engine by hand 10 times checking the timing marks to make sure they keep lining up.

 

Well said

 

Just to clarify, everything is in line with the exception of the oil pump sprocket, it is approximately a half tooth behind, the car seems to idle and run fine, I am driving it tonight so I should be able to give you guys the full story of how it feels.

 

Oil pump sprocket should line up perfect, I hate to say that. I would expect the balance shafts to be slightly out of phase with the motor if it's off slightly. I would think you could feel that...