I think the side impact test has more to do with simulating you sitting there minding your bidness when someone T-bones you.

IMHO - if your going fast in any car and you crash on your own, just surviving would be enough blessing , even with a pelvic injury...

 

umm is the evo even based on a lancer platform? isnt it like a colt or something?....why would u even compare the evos ratings to the lancer if its not even the same chassis?

i know i read that its not the same chassis....how relaible the source was is questionable

 

The roof certainly squashed down when Travis Pastrana rolled one on TV. The roll cage kept it from spreading to the driver area but the back seat area got creamed.

 

Frankly I'm more concerned about frontal offset collisions. It seems the Evo would hold it's own if the Lancer is highly rated.

http://www.hwysafety.org/vehicle_rat.../html/0123.htm

 

If you swerve sideways at speed, or if a slide goes out of control, we're talking side impact at ridiculous speeds. No T-boning necessary.

Either way, it's an important parameter and the figures don't measure up (at least for the base Lancer, for the Evo, who knows ?).

 

Obviously, you have no idea what you're talking about. Many Subarus are praised for their sturdiness and safety in crash testing (and real world accidents bear this out). The Impreza has at least 4 star ratings across the board. The Forester has perfect 5 star ratings, AFAIK the first Japanese car to get such a rating.

on the other hand sports some of the worst crash testing records of all road going cars.

So whatever the strengths of 's sports offerings may be (and believe me, I am a huge fan of the Evo), safety is not known to be one of them.

Subaru is vastly different, one of their major selling points is that they're among the safest Japanese car makes available.

Get your facts right.

 

if you're concerned with safety issues, nobody's gonna stop you from getting a roll cage , I don't think you're ever get hurt this way

 

here's a pick

 

That's hardly the point, stock street cars don't come with roll cages and installing roll cages in a street car is actually illegal in some countries.

My point is simply that the stock Subaru Impreza is a safer car than the stock Mitsu lancer, as proven objectively in tests. The WRX is a damned safe car for the price becuase the body shell (the same as the N/A Impreza) has actually been tested to be so.

I don't know how the USDM STi stacks up against the USDM Evo, but contend that it's impossible to judge without crash testing because the USDM STi is made of thinner sheetmetal than the WRX and consequently may be weaker structurally, and the USDM Evo may have a "bajillion" extra bolts compared to the base Lancer, and consequently may be stronger.

 

well all i know is my friend got T boned on the drives side in his evo and he walked out of the evo with not even a scratch!http://www.highintenzity.com/modules...view_photo.php i would have to say that the lady was going more than 45 because we didnt even see her coming = /

 

I've had the door panels off a couple of times now, and from what I remember... You get T-Boned in and evo, don't count on the structural welds to do much for ya. Its got some re-enforcement in the middle sections by where the "cup" section that you grab to close the door is. There is also a chunk of some kind of foam in there whose purpose I couldn't quite make out. Maybe something designed to help with a side impact, but I'm really not sure. Honestly I wasn't really paying attention to how structural it was or wasn't, I was installing speakers. : ) But I know if there was a large crossbar there I would remember it. I think our car was designed to get as much handling and speed out of $30,000 as possible. Superior safety ratings were not quite as high in the design goals chart.

If this is a major concern for you, I test drove a Saab 93 Vector Sports Sedan, and it really was a blast. They also got a 5 star safety rating, and its got some good go-go for a luxury sedan.

 

yeah, but look at the minivan, looks like the front is really f*ked up.... man I hate when **** like this happens to good cars, damn minivans and SUV's

 

I can say that the Evo handles side inpact extremly well see pic below this was hitting a gaurd rail going about 50 MPH sideways.
And ther was no damage inside the car the inside of the door looked perfect.

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg

 

Actually, the poor rating appears to be front-side impact. Rear side impact, it does well. You can see the depression of the impact bar in that pic, actually. Without that, I bet you are looking at something a lot uglier, sadly. Glad you are ok, though!

I thought it might be worthwhile to show you what the side impact photo looks like. The conditions of the test are:
3015 lb object impacting the car, as shown, at 38.5mph. The object is designed to give like another vehicle. All vehicles of all sizes are hit by this same barrier, so it's useful for comparison purposes.
At 2 stars, that means there is a 21-25% chance of a life-threatening injury. Here is the Lancer:


At 4 stars, that means there is a 6-10% chance of a life-threatening injury. Here is the Impreza:


For humor, here is the Impreza wagon doing the frontal impact test. It is actually so good that it touches the wall and nothing happens at all :


Take care,
Rob

 

I love it. It doesn't look like it really affects the back seat room either, nice! How in the way are the front cross bars? My S12 was caged, but it was really serious, and in the way.
Thanks,
Rob