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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 11:17 PM
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Clutch Job, Now Not Going into Gear. Help !

I just had an OEM clutch, PP, TOB and ACT Monoloc placed into my car tonight by a local evo shop.

First off the car was running fine before all this (the car only has 24k on it) though I thought I should spend some money and change out all the clutch parts, also driveline fluids this week & the timing belts etc next week.

After 10 hours work, I went into the car to leave and while the car was on, it would not engage into any gear. I went to get the employees and notified them. They advised me to drive it to wear it in, though I could hardly go into reverse or first. Engine off it will row through the gears though is notchy

Once the car gets moving it goes into gears ok, though I feel a slight vibration through the clutch that was not there before. When at stop then going to first or reverse it will not go in without heavy effort. When I came home there was a smell though I don't remember it or this problem when I had the work done at the dealership on my previous evo.

I don't want to ruin sychros as the car was running pretty solid. They changed the bracket holding the bushings from one evo to mine, though that didnt seem to do anything. He also adjusted the clutch pedal.

Please advise as to what the problem might be

I found this thread but I don't know how accurate it might be

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...gear-help.html

This thread is disconcerting as it specifically says dont force it into gear (which I was told to wear it in) as it will ruin synchros

http://www.jackstransmissions.com/pa...kills-synchros

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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 12:04 AM
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Edit... Nevermind. Reading the whole post first helps.

Start with adjusting the pedal. Where in the throw of the pedal is the clutch engaging?
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 05:57 AM
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Please advise as to what the problem might be


Sounds like pedal adjustment, if that is not the case they failed do the job correctly.
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 07:40 AM
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Edit... Nevermind. Reading the whole post first helps.

Start with adjusting the pedal. Where in the throw of the pedal is the clutch engaging?

haha, i wanted to put all pertinent info on the thread

The sad part is everything was working correctly and I don't want to damage the synchros

Is it possibly a slave cylinder issue?

It will go into gear when the engine is off though is extremely difficult when the engine is on


since all the replacement parts are OE other than the MonoLoc (which I have not heard of anyone having this or any issues with it) I assumed it would be a regular clutch job

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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 11:38 AM
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^ bump for any info
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 12:09 PM
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So it goes into gear fine with the car off, and doesn't go into gear easy with the car on? The only thing in common there is the clutch. you also mentioned a smell? All this info leads me to believe you have clutch drag, which will be fixed with a pedal adjustment.
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 12:23 PM
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If you slap in an OEM clutch it should shift like the day it was new - no clutch adjustment necessary. The shop screwed up.
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 12:54 PM
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Make sure they didn't touch the flywheel, if machined too far it could be trash. Also could be a hydraulic problem, is there air in the lines?
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 01:10 PM
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So it goes into gear fine with the car off, and doesn't go into gear easy with the car on? The only thing in common there is the clutch. you also mentioned a smell? All this info leads me to believe you have clutch drag, which will be fixed with a pedal adjustment.
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If you slap in an OEM clutch it should shift like the day it was new - no clutch adjustment necessary. The shop screwed up.

I agree with both those statements. It might be a clutch pedal adjustment but if it's OEM it shouldnt need one
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 08:35 PM
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Yea we assume all the oem parts are correct so i would start with bleeding the slave and making sure fluid is full, pedal adjustment, check for hydrolic leaks. If all that checks out it has to be an issue with the new clutch. Either the disc isn't sliding smooth over the splines on the trans or the pressure plate isn't torqued evenly, tob incorrectly installed. Its hard to say but start with the fluid n pedal adjustment but i see that trans coming out again
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 08:41 PM
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I don't want to pay labor again to take the trans out if the other things dont resolve the problem.

The lack of people saying " this is normal from time to time" assists the theory that this is not normal

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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 09:17 PM
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Well I'm no genius mechanic but back in September I threw in an OEM pressure plate,disc, monoloc and TO bearing. I didn't bleed or adjust anything and this new clutch is way sweeter that the one the car came with new. So, that's where I coming from when I say something is wrong.
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 08:36 AM
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^ thank you for the information. That is what I was hoping for as I have not heard about wearing it in this manner from other posts I have read. I did get brand new parts from Mitsubishiparts.net and did not open the box till I was at the shop. The box was in great condition so nothing was dropped etc.

I have been in contact with ACT regarding the monoloc causing a slight pedal vibration and it has been explained to me that this product should not be the cause of this.

I appreciate the information and if there are more suggestions please let me know
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by silverevo05
^ thank you for the information. That is what I was hoping for as I have not heard about wearing it in this manner from other posts I have read. I did get brand new parts from Mitsubishiparts.net and did not open the box till I was at the shop. The box was in great condition so nothing was dropped etc.

I have been in contact with ACT regarding the monoloc causing a slight pedal vibration and it has been explained to me that this product should not be the cause of this.

I appreciate the information and if there are more suggestions please let me know
I should add that this is coming from an OEM clutch to another OEM clutch which I understand is also your case.
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by barneyb
I should add that this is coming from an OEM clutch to another OEM clutch which I understand is also your case.
sorry man
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