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Old May 6, 2014 | 09:24 PM
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It doesn't make sense. I guess they are banking that the Suby fanboys will snap up a new STI even if they have to replace the engine every 20k. Pretty lame on Subaru's part.
It makes sense, if you're Subaru. They already know people will buy the new car as it is just because it's new, especially with the reviews it's been getting, the vast majority of which do not address the shortcomings of the engine, which involve modding and reliability and generally are explored unless you own the car for a while. And then when they give it a better engine, it will bring more buzz back to the car.

It sucks for the consumer, though it's pretty obvious that they'll phase out the EJ25 and put in a higher-tune 2.0T. Though they probably just want to milk the engine a little bit more.
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Old May 6, 2014 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DeeezNuuuts83
it's pretty obvious that they'll phase out the EJ25 and put in a higher-tune 2.0T

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Old May 7, 2014 | 06:19 AM
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^ hope that's true, if it is - it'll be worth a more serious consideration then.
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Old May 7, 2014 | 12:44 PM
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why would you go from evo to sti? STi's are for GIRLS BRO
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Old May 7, 2014 | 12:46 PM
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why would you go from evo to sti? STi's are for GIRLS BRO
LOL. but they are a more comfortable as a daily driver in most people's opinions. to that, i'd have to agree.
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Old May 7, 2014 | 04:08 PM
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Done with this stupid idea. No STI for me. Keeping the IX MR forever. Back to trying to decide I should dump the big $$$ on the upcoming Cayman GTS . . .
You won't be disappointed with the Porsche!
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Old May 7, 2014 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by DeeezNuuuts83
It makes sense, if you're Subaru. They already know people will buy the new car as it is just because it's new, especially with the reviews it's been getting, the vast majority of which do not address the shortcomings of the engine, which involve modding and reliability and generally are explored unless you own the car for a while. And then when they give it a better engine, it will bring more buzz back to the car.

It sucks for the consumer, though it's pretty obvious that they'll phase out the EJ25 and put in a higher-tune 2.0T. Though they probably just want to milk the engine a little bit more.
So far it seems as if the new FA20 is solid. You would think they would have addressed the ringland issue by now. Maybe they just don't care because they could deny warranty work for even the most trivial things. For what some of the STI paid out of pocket for a new STI and rebuilds they could have been in a GTR...
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Old May 7, 2014 | 05:12 PM
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It makes sense, for starters. The EJ25 at this point is over ten years old but wasn't exactly a technological marvel or a bulletproof engine. The FA20 (assuming that is the correct engine code) in the WRX performed favorably when compared side-by-side to the STI. For having lesser numbers on paper, its acceleration wasn't too far behind, but its dyno numbers were very good, particularly in the torque department. Fuel efficiency was good too. There's no reason for Subaru to not have plans to put it in an STI at some point, with a higher tune... it's already putting out just south of 300 hp in the overseas Legacy GT (though of course it'll give up a few ponies with a US tune for our gas), plus it has been stated by a number of publications a while back that the STI would get a 2.0T.

Subaru probably wants to just milk the EJ25 a little bit more (which sucks for the consumers, especially those who would prefer to get an STI fairly soon), but realistically they're not going to keep that engine forever, especially with the problems that it has had over the years along with the fact that the FA20 has a more flexible powerband while also having much better fuel economy, which will clearly get them closer to where they need to be in order to meet the CAFE standards in the upcoming years. Plus putting the FA20 in the STI at some point with a sportier tune means that they'll be building more of those engines overall, which should help them reduce their costs per unit.

While it's not the exact same situation, manufacturers like BMW and Mercedes do that. A new bodystyle comes out, and for the most part, they still keep the same engines at the launch of the new generation (with the exception of the AMG models). But they end up introducing more potent engines, like the N54 and N55 coming out a few years into the E90/92's lifespan. Plus we've seen similar things with Mercedes' lineup, like the 4.7-liter twin-turbo V-8 replacing the 5.5-liter NA V-8 halfway through most models' lifespans.
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Old May 7, 2014 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DeeezNuuuts83
It makes sense, for starters. , plus it has been stated by a number of publications a while back that the STI would get a 2.0T.
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Oh. Gotcha.
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Old May 7, 2014 | 05:57 PM
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Old May 9, 2014 | 04:46 AM
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But why sir evo>wrx
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Old May 9, 2014 | 06:45 PM
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Is no one gonna mention that the new subarus are UGLY AS SIN!!!
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Old May 9, 2014 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Viegasjuice
Is no one gonna mention that the new subarus are UGLY AS SIN!!!
that's a dead horse by now LOL. pretty much a given. but if looks don't matter...
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Old May 9, 2014 | 11:19 PM
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that's a dead horse by now LOL. pretty much a given. but if looks don't matter...
If looks don't matter and were talking function, it's still a loss. If your gonna downgrade atleast get an X. Much better car.
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Old May 10, 2014 | 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Viegasjuice
If looks don't matter and were talking function, it's still a loss. If your gonna downgrade atleast get an X. Much better car.
For sure.
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