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Old Jun 3, 2014 | 10:17 PM
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Ok honest opinions. I am planning on keeping my stock route INJEN intercooler kit for awhile but was looking for a upgraded cooler..

Which do you think is better to invest in ETS or AMS intercooler?
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Old Jun 3, 2014 | 11:33 PM
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Whatever is cheaper for you. ETS, AMS, Buschur all are great proven brands
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Old Jun 4, 2014 | 04:56 AM
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Old Jun 4, 2014 | 04:59 AM
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I have an ets inter cooler it was the best bang for the buck for me at the time
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Old Jun 4, 2014 | 05:31 AM
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Stock turbo? No point. Spend your $ elseware.
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Old Jun 4, 2014 | 05:40 AM
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Stock turbo? No point. Spend your $ elseware.
Here's where there is a fine line. Stock Turbo at stock boost level. Ok maybe


Get a good tune in the car and some higher boost levels that stock turbo now becomes a hair dryer better yet a heat gun. You'll really see the benefit from a upgraded Intercooler here. As the stock IC will heatsoak very badly

More so even than with a lager turbo that isn't blowing so much hot air at said boost level.

16g at 30 psi is pushing a lot more hot air than a 35r at 30 psi
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Old Jun 4, 2014 | 05:49 AM
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I don't see any problem with upgrading components in plans to make big power. Do all the bolt on stuff first, intercooler, injectors etc then worry about turbo. A turbo upgrade is useless without everything to support it and since most people cant drop 5000$ at one time do the smaller stuff first then turbo last when you have the support for it.
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Old Jun 4, 2014 | 06:02 AM
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Please tell me how plastic retains heat more than aluminum?
I’m Just saying the gains will be very small if noticeable. I’m sure without seeing the op's mod list i could find something cheaper that he/she would get more gains from.
However by "EatSleepBoost's" theory, if you plan on going for the gold eventually. Might as well strap on a 5" core and some 2000cc injector’s when you’re at it.
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Old Jun 4, 2014 | 06:06 AM
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If the OP would of gave a mod list it would help haha.
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Hello everyone finally decided to join this forum and get in on some chats with everyone. Been on this site many of times when researching my evo since I picked up my 06 Evo MR last september. Found many useful tips, tricks and just about everything else on here.



I also wanted to get on here and get some opinions from everyone on my cars HP numbers. I just recently did some work to it and disappointed with my results I was hope for better numbers.



Mods list

Buschur stage 3 head

GSC S2 cams

Tomei turbo

ToxicFab Exhaust manifold

Muse O2 Dump

Buschur fuel rail

Aeromotive 340 fuel pump

FIC 1100cc Injectors

Injen intercooler pipes

Hallman pro manual boost controller

Greddy FV BOV

Stock intake manifold

Stock throttle body

stock intercooler



The tuner said the best he could do with my car was 346hp and 317tq at 25psi.



Now if im just aspecting to much out of my car please set me straight but I was hoping closer to the 400 mark, probably little under. but I was sure I have more than 350 sittin under my hood.



But glad to finally join here, and thanks for any and all opinions!!!
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Old Jun 4, 2014 | 06:21 AM
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Please tell me how plastic retains heat more than aluminum?
I’m Just saying the gains will be very small if noticeable. I’m sure without seeing the op's mod list i could find something cheaper that he/she would get more gains from.


Plastic/Aluminum Huh? Lost me...

Anyway moving on.


Looking at his mod list posted in your second post he will absolutely benefit from a larger more efficient IC core. I'd bet by second to third pull tuner is seeing the knock pour in. Numbers still look low however a stock IC would certainly be holding that set up back and by not a small margin either
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Old Jun 4, 2014 | 07:11 AM
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ETS and AMS both use garret cores, just have different end tanks. i would go ets because they are cheaper
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Old Jun 4, 2014 | 07:46 AM
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Yeah been doing research and not seeing any major difference and might be better bang for buck with ETS. But yes if I was all stock I wouldnt start off with IC and yes will eventually go FP black or maybe precision turbo upgrade.

Last edited by GearJamminMR; Jun 4, 2014 at 11:34 AM.
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Old Jun 4, 2014 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by gsrboi80
Plastic/Aluminum Huh? Lost me...

Anyway moving on.


Looking at his mod list posted in your second post he will absolutely benefit from a larger more efficient IC core. I'd bet by second to third pull tuner is seeing the knock pour in. Numbers still look low however a stock IC would certainly be holding that set up back and by not a small margin either
+1, the fmic won't necessarily make power itself, its the fact that you can safely run higher levels of boost with a larger fmic which in turn gives the gains


from past experience IIRC when i did a retune while adding fmic/licp/o2 housing, i gained 30/20 on 91 @1 more psi (25)
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Old Jun 4, 2014 | 11:14 AM
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Just throwing this out there. You could go e85 and kill 2 birds with one stone. Much higher octane + chemical cooling effect. E85 also has lower EGT's. E85 would let you run the stock intercooler into much higher power levels.
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Old Jun 4, 2014 | 11:38 AM
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Man E86 is really pushed. Wasn't going to do E85 right due to the fact it's not a convenient fuel source here in my town, I know 1 gas station that has it and others have told me about another, so a total of 2 stations. Also neither of those stations are close to my home or work. But I picked up a beater car to make my dealer so making this thing E85 is most likely in the near future. So why not both upgraded IC and E85 definitely score some power there.
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