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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 04:39 PM
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Need 100hp, but keep torque the same

Just dynoed and put down 375 hp and 365 wtq

Boost is at 27psi, my timing is low because I haven't tuned it completely. I have all the mods you can think of for 500hp easy

What recommendations a should I look at to keep from spinning a rod?
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 04:45 PM
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I have to ask, because I've been told that really the only thing that matters is torque. Why do you want 500 Hp if you don't have the torque to back it up? The torque is what moves the car, or so I'm told. Not hating, or trying to bash, just personally curious. Others, please correct me if I'm wrong in the previous statement.
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 04:46 PM
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So you want 500 hp and the same torque? What exactly are you looking for
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 05:46 PM
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Becuase my motor is stock, if it was built I wouldnt care

Have to keep torque where it is an increase the hp
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 05:49 PM
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Im very confused as to what your question is...but for starters it may help by listing what modifications are done to the car thus far as well as what fuel its going to be run on.

Oh and Im guessing you mean spinning a bearing or throwing a rod not spinning a rod
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 05:59 PM
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Yea right sorry was researching what I should do for tuning, it looks like I
Need more timing past peak torque on my dyno graph

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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 06:32 PM
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he wants 500 hp and 400tq
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by xXANCHORMONXx
he wants 500 hp and 400tq
Thank you didnt realize it was that hard
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by xMCxMRx
I have to ask, because I've been told that really the only thing that matters is torque. Why do you want 500 Hp if you don't have the torque to back it up? The torque is what moves the car, or so I'm told. Not hating, or trying to bash, just personally curious. Others, please correct me if I'm wrong in the previous statement.
You're right that torque is what makes the car accelerate. However you're forgetting that tq and hp are related. A 400hp, 350tq car is slower than a 500hp, 350tq one. That's because, while both cars peak at 350tq, car #2 maintains a flatter torque curve after that peak, while car #1's torque falls off.

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So you want 500 hp and the same torque? What exactly are you looking for
OP wants to keep the torque curve flatter after peak tq, which will increase top end hp while not changing the peak tq numbers.
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 07:36 PM
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maintain ur timing at peak boost/load the same, but increase it to redline.
run higher boost
rev higher

Those should get you the additional peak hp!
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 07:50 PM
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maybe a better set of 272 cams?
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 08:06 PM
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You have every part to make 500hp easy but made 375? That parts list you made is pretty short and 500hp may be further from your reach than you think. What fuel are you using?

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You have every part to make 500hp easy but made 375? That parts list you made is pretty short and 500hp may be further from your reach than you think. What fuel are you using?
Im using e85 I haven't started tuning yet, the car can boost and the fuel is good, haven't messed with timing I wanted to get a baseline to see where I would be at. It looks like I need to keep my boost at 27-30psi, and just ramp up my timing after I make peak torque from what I researched so far


Or would I ramp up timing the whole way? I also am not sure where mbt lies at with e85

On guy suggested this method for e85
Peak load 4-6* timing boost

Rpm and load peak around 18*
5000 - 6*
5750 - 11*
6500 - 14*
8000 - 18*
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Old Sep 17, 2014 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Raptord
You're right that torque is what makes the car accelerate. However you're forgetting that tq and hp are related. A 400hp, 350tq car is slower than a 500hp, 350tq one. That's because, while both cars peak at 350tq, car #2 maintains a flatter torque curve after that peak, while car #1's torque falls off.



OP wants to keep the torque curve flatter after peak tq, which will increase top end hp while not changing the peak tq numbers.
Ok, I understand what you're saying. I've personally never had that explained to me, which is why I was confused. Thanks for the explanation, I appreciate it.
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Old Sep 17, 2014 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by xMCxMRx
Ok, I understand what you're saying. I've personally never had that explained to me, which is why I was confused. Thanks for the explanation, I appreciate it.
Glad I could help
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