Doing things again how would you build change
Honestly the 4g64 is the way to go in my opinion. I like low end power and thats the way to do it. If I smoke my 2.3 stroker I'm def going the 4g64 option. The 4g64 may be slightly limited in top end power as you can't rev too high but there are plenty of guys who've made huge power with them. 4g64 ftw!
For OP, I made peak hp at about 7500rpm. My dynograph is in this link in the first post. https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...e85-2-4lr.html
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Manifold? DP, o2? that's all basic and yea for the price of a bbk full you can get a hot parts kit and JB turbo setup, from a reputable shop. But once you go down that route its a slippery slope in my eyes.
next comes bigger cams, more fuel "most likely E85", .... spool, psssh, BOOM!!
now you are on a motor build, then trans build to handle your motor. It just adds up. 5k-10k easy. “this just isn’t for me anymore”Stock motor making 400-450 is my goal. But everyone perspective is different. Ill stick with a Red, Black or BBK F
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I agree on some of this. But when you say extras what do you mean?
Manifold? DP, o2? that's all basic and yea for the price of a bbk full you can get a hot parts kit and JB turbo setup, from a reputable shop. But once you go down that route its a slippery slope in my eyes.
next comes bigger cams, more fuel "most likely E85", .... spool, psssh, BOOM!! now you are on a motor build, then trans build to handle your motor. It just adds up. 5k-10k easy. “this just isn’t for me anymore”
Stock motor making 400-450 is my goal. But everyone perspective is different. Ill stick with a Red, Black or BBK F
Manifold? DP, o2? that's all basic and yea for the price of a bbk full you can get a hot parts kit and JB turbo setup, from a reputable shop. But once you go down that route its a slippery slope in my eyes.
next comes bigger cams, more fuel "most likely E85", .... spool, psssh, BOOM!!
now you are on a motor build, then trans build to handle your motor. It just adds up. 5k-10k easy. “this just isn’t for me anymore”Stock motor making 400-450 is my goal. But everyone perspective is different. Ill stick with a Red, Black or BBK F
FP Mani: $250
FP Oil Line Kit: $199.00
I may be the exception but my FF kit + PTE Turbo + IC ended up costing me 4k.
To spend almost as much for a stock frame turbo seems ludicrous to me but I suppose it depends on your goals. If your goal is a fun street car you can rock a FP Green/BBK-Full. If you want a little more power to deal with those Pesky Vette's and Camaro's then a FP Red/Black or BBK-C would be the best bet (best with a built motor).
BUT
If you are going to start adding stuff to get every ounce of power out of it then you might as well entertain a big frame turbo kit with a properly matched turbo.
Thats my honest opinion. And running the turbo outside of its efficiency range like people started to do with the FP Greens, Reds and Blacks is counter-productive. Fun is more then straight line power. I've learned that the hard way.
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