EVO 6 vs. CT9A (7/8/9) hood/fenders/bumper differences?
EVO 6 vs. CT9A (7/8/9) hood/fenders/bumper differences?
I have a CS6A base model Lancer that is...I don't even know what anymore. Some sort of an EVO with AWD.
I'm planning to run wide wheels/tires (17x10 265 or 275) so will need to come up with a method for cleaning things up, either with some custom cut Datsun 240z style flares, or look at an EVO 8/9 front body conversion (which is basically a direct swap and has been done by a lot of people). But that seems boring and leaves this front-heavy imbalance unless you do a full on rear quarter panel/rear tail light conversion which is a lot of body work. It's also overdone and boring.
So..
I'm wondering if anyone has ever tried swapping over the EVO 6 front to a Lancer or CT9A chassis? The Lancer and Mirage of the early 2000's do look of a comparative size and the wider fenders on the EVO 6 will help clean things up. The rear of the Lancer is already of the same comparative width of the EVO 6 less the modest arches on the back. This would mean then no crazy hack-it-up EVO 8/9 rear conversion.
I'm concerned about the wheels fitting center, the width and angle of the windshield as it meets the cowls/hood and of course the overall width of the hood and front bumper relative to the frame. Hacking up the front and doing some custom tubing to support everything wouldn't be that big of a deal as long as the end result is going to be clean and decently balanced with the rest of the car. It's a tough call so I thought I'd first check if anyone has any insight on this.
I'm planning to run wide wheels/tires (17x10 265 or 275) so will need to come up with a method for cleaning things up, either with some custom cut Datsun 240z style flares, or look at an EVO 8/9 front body conversion (which is basically a direct swap and has been done by a lot of people). But that seems boring and leaves this front-heavy imbalance unless you do a full on rear quarter panel/rear tail light conversion which is a lot of body work. It's also overdone and boring.
So..
I'm wondering if anyone has ever tried swapping over the EVO 6 front to a Lancer or CT9A chassis? The Lancer and Mirage of the early 2000's do look of a comparative size and the wider fenders on the EVO 6 will help clean things up. The rear of the Lancer is already of the same comparative width of the EVO 6 less the modest arches on the back. This would mean then no crazy hack-it-up EVO 8/9 rear conversion.
I'm concerned about the wheels fitting center, the width and angle of the windshield as it meets the cowls/hood and of course the overall width of the hood and front bumper relative to the frame. Hacking up the front and doing some custom tubing to support everything wouldn't be that big of a deal as long as the end result is going to be clean and decently balanced with the rest of the car. It's a tough call so I thought I'd first check if anyone has any insight on this.
If I were you and I had already done that crazy amount of work, then I would do what Mitsubishi did with your car. Remember when they ditched the Evo and made their WRC car out of the 2004 Lancer, because of the whole Group A homologation thing?
The rear is almost the same, but the rest would require some creativity.

The rear is almost the same, but the rest would require some creativity.

Man that would be awesome to mimic that car.
You are definitely right though....some serious creativity. At least with doing an EVO 6 front end conversion I can source stock 6 body parts and its probably just some slight grinding and making brackets to get it to all fit. Easier said than done though...finding those parts will be difficult.
I think matching their actual WRC car would require designing one off custom parts to match their design I doubt anything like that exists!?
The back definitely looks easer.
You are definitely right though....some serious creativity. At least with doing an EVO 6 front end conversion I can source stock 6 body parts and its probably just some slight grinding and making brackets to get it to all fit. Easier said than done though...finding those parts will be difficult.
I think matching their actual WRC car would require designing one off custom parts to match their design I doubt anything like that exists!?
The back definitely looks easer.
Sorry, don't mean to derail your thread with other stuff. I just think it's an interesting opportunity to do an unusual tribute to the WRC Lancer. It's an overlooked car, but it's funny that Mitsubishi themselves did something just as weird as you have. Looks like some people have attempted it in the past, this guy somehow did it:
http://www.rally24.com/rally-cars-fo...-car-1379.html
There are threads from like 2006 where people were asking the same.
http://www.rally24.com/rally-cars-fo...-car-1379.html
There are threads from like 2006 where people were asking the same.
I think you're in the Vancouver region because I swear I saw your bbk on Craigslist before.
If so, check out the Fraser Valley Evo Club on Facebook. Theres a wrecked Evo 4 which you can inquire about. Front end damage though, but I think that's good enough to take measurements if the owner is okay with it.
If so, check out the Fraser Valley Evo Club on Facebook. Theres a wrecked Evo 4 which you can inquire about. Front end damage though, but I think that's good enough to take measurements if the owner is okay with it.
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Yup lol that was me.
I'll check it out. I'm not sure if I like the EVO 4 design as much as the 6...and I'm seeing that the none TME version had a different bumper too.
Guess one good thing if I do this is it's definite weigh savings
I'll check it out. I'm not sure if I like the EVO 4 design as much as the 6...and I'm seeing that the none TME version had a different bumper too.
Guess one good thing if I do this is it's definite weigh savings
I read somewhere that the EVO V introduced 40mm wider front arches from the IV and being that I need the wide flares, i think the IV might not cut it.
I think it's down to the V, VI or VI TME, or find a body guy willing to tackle the 04 WRC Lancer design.
EVO V:

EVO VI:

EVO VI TME:

2004 WRC Lancer lol:

I'm kind of digging the V design. I think with a darkened backing on the fog lights it could look really good. The VI is understandably the most iconic and apart from the direct WRC 04 mock, is the best tribute.
What does everybody else think?
I think it's down to the V, VI or VI TME, or find a body guy willing to tackle the 04 WRC Lancer design.
EVO V:

EVO VI:

EVO VI TME:

2004 WRC Lancer lol:

I'm kind of digging the V design. I think with a darkened backing on the fog lights it could look really good. The VI is understandably the most iconic and apart from the direct WRC 04 mock, is the best tribute.
What does everybody else think?
EVO 6 vs. CT9A (7/8/9) hood/fenders/bumper differences?
Yah its hard to visualize. I think because the V/VIs don't flare out on the rear the same way the 7/8/9s do, it might look ok. The lines are basically the same. Standard fender arches could be done on the back to complete the look.
Who knows someone really good at Photoshop?
I'll just call the car the Carisma to confuse everyone lol.
EDIT: Mitsubishi Carisma GT:

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As for the conversion, there might be a mis-match between the lines of the EVO 5/6 front and the line that follows from the front, along the doors and to the rear. This might need to be adjusted between the cars.
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Who knows someone really good at Photoshop?
I'll just call the car the Carisma to confuse everyone lol.
EDIT: Mitsubishi Carisma GT:

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As for the conversion, there might be a mis-match between the lines of the EVO 5/6 front and the line that follows from the front, along the doors and to the rear. This might need to be adjusted between the cars.
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Last edited by doncarbone; Nov 30, 2015 at 01:03 PM.
Yes it would definitely not be a direct swap and we'd have to probably do some work across the doors to get the lines to match. I'm not looking for a direct swap, I know full well going into this we'd have to do some cutting and welding, but it's similar enough that I think it could work. Like it's not swapping the front of a Corvette or something lol.
I want to do something different. I feel strongly that the amount of work to actually do a front body swap using a V or VI is less than that of what these guys did converting a base Lancer to the EVO IX. You can't just do the front if you do the 7/8/9 swap. The front is easy but the back is as custom if not more custom than what we'd face doing a V or VI front body swap on an 03 Lancer. These guys converted an 06 Ralliart to an IX. The rear body work looked very time consuming and required directly cutting into the tail-light housing then building up the rear quarters.
I want to do something different. I feel strongly that the amount of work to actually do a front body swap using a V or VI is less than that of what these guys did converting a base Lancer to the EVO IX. You can't just do the front if you do the 7/8/9 swap. The front is easy but the back is as custom if not more custom than what we'd face doing a V or VI front body swap on an 03 Lancer. These guys converted an 06 Ralliart to an IX. The rear body work looked very time consuming and required directly cutting into the tail-light housing then building up the rear quarters.
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