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Old Dec 20, 2016 | 04:32 AM
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What damper level do you set at?

hi I just installed a set of Tein monosprt coilovers 16 damper adjustment, currently setting it at 8 clicks which is recommended by the factory Tein, but I still feel it very stiff maybe I just need to get used to it. Just want to know if I go any softer than 8 clicks will it cause any damage to the shock?

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Old Dec 20, 2016 | 06:04 AM
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What coil rates front & rear?

Try the soft setting at 1 to 5 & see how you like it. Much of the perceived stiffness may just be from the coil rate

Adjusting these multi level coilovers produces little change in the dampening feel. You have to make larger clicker moves (and no, the soft setting should not negatively affect the c/o'r)
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Old Dec 20, 2016 | 05:08 PM
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What coil rates front & rear?

Try the soft setting at 1 to 5 & see how you like it. Much of the perceived stiffness may just be from the coil rate

Adjusting these multi level coilovers produces little change in the dampening feel. You have to make larger clicker moves (and no, the soft setting should not negatively affect the c/o'r)
I think the spring rate is f: 14kg r: 10kg
i try to play with the damper today and I found out that there's 31 click from the full soft to full hard, is it only the first 16 clicks is adjusting the damper and the rest clicks is no use? I heard it can also damage the shock if I adjust it past 16 clicks?.
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Old Dec 20, 2016 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by eddy5201314
I think the spring rate is f: 14kg r: 10kg
i try to play with the damper today and I found out that there's 31 click from the full soft to full hard, is it only the first 16 clicks is adjusting the damper and the rest clicks is no use? I heard it can also damage the shock if I adjust it past 16 clicks?.
Well, I think we found the problem. Running a 14K spring is on the extreme end of things, especially in the front. Also, the rates are backwards and too far apart in value. Due to the EvO's rear suspension motion ratio the higher rate most always goes in the rear. If youre just street driving, you may want to consider something like 8K /10K or 7K / 8K

That 14K front spring has to go!

And yes, Dont want to force those clickers! All those 31 clicker settings work. But to feel any diff you will have to make large adjustments, say 5 clicks at a time after the 14K spring is removed

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Old Dec 20, 2016 | 10:59 PM
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Well, I think we found the problem. Running a 14K spring is on the extreme end of things, especially in the front. Also, the rates are backwards and too far apart in value. Due to the EvO's rear suspension motion ratio the higher rate most always goes in the rear. If youre just street driving, you may want to consider something like 8K /10K or 7K / 8K

That 14K front spring has to go!

And yes, Dont want to force those clickers! All those 31 clicker settings work. But to feel any diff you will have to make large adjustments, say 5 clicks at a time after the 14K spring is removed
oh I see thanks, so I'm guessing that 14k spring is for track race use?
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Well, I think we found the problem. Running a 14K spring is on the extreme end of things, especially in the front. Also, the rates are backwards and too far apart in value. Due to the EvO's rear suspension motion ratio the higher rate most always goes in the rear. If youre just street driving, you may want to consider something like 8K /10K or 7K / 8K

That 14K front spring has to go!

And yes, Dont want to force those clickers! All those 31 clicker settings work. But to feel any diff you will have to make large adjustments, say 5 clicks at a time after the 14K spring is removed
so is it the first 16 clicks (starting at full soft) is auctually adjusting the damper or the last 16 clicks (starting at the full hard) is adjusting the damper?

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Old Dec 21, 2016 | 01:11 AM
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so is it the first 16 clicks (starting at full soft) is auctually adjusting the damper or the last 16 clicks (starting at the full hard) is adjusting the damper?
I just want to know that for the damper setting, there's about 31 clicks total adjustment, but I know the Tein monosport is only 16 way damper adjustment, so I want to know is the first 16 click start from soft is adjusting the damper or is the last 16 clicks starting from all the way to the full hard is adjusting the damper?
Because I heard if I past more than 16 clicks can damage the shock so I just want to make this clear, thank you
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oh I see thanks, so I'm guessing that 14k spring is for track race use?
I have not seen anyone on here (maybe one) run a 14K spring in the front

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so is it the first 16 clicks (starting at full soft) is auctually adjusting the damper or the last 16 clicks (starting at the full hard) is adjusting the damper?
Not sure how the Teins work exactly but I run 24 way Fortune Autos on my EvO & Megan 32 way on my Daily. The adjustment is just a very gradual change from full soft to full hard through the span of the clicker settings

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I just want to know that for the damper setting, there's about 31 clicks total adjustment, but I know the Tein monosport is only 16 way damper adjustment, so I want to know is the first 16 click start from soft is adjusting the damper or is the last 16 clicks starting from all the way to the full hard is adjusting the damper?
Because I heard if I past more than 16 clicks can damage the shock so I just want to make this clear, thank you
I see there is some confusion regarding how many clicker settings your Teins have. I suggest you find the owners manual or call Tein w/the model no. of your springs.

Please note: The clicker settings will have little effect on that 14K front spring
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Originally Posted by MinusPrevious
I have not seen anyone on here (maybe one) run a 14K spring in the front



Not sure how the Teins work exactly but I run 24 way Fortune Autos on my EvO & Megan 32 way on my Daily. The adjustment is just a very gradual change from full soft to full hard through the span of the clicker settings



I see there is some confusion regarding how many clicker settings your Teins have. I suggest you find the owners manual or call Tein w/the model no. of your springs.

Please note: The clicker settings will have little effect on that 14K front spring
thanks, yeah I need some more time to play around this and set this right.
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Old Dec 22, 2016 | 08:09 PM
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This the the driver side camber plate
This is the passenager side camber plate, how come the 4 camber adjustment screw is different position from the driver side?
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I have not seen anyone on here (maybe one) run a 14K spring in the front



Not sure how the Teins work exactly but I run 24 way Fortune Autos on my EvO & Megan 32 way on my Daily. The adjustment is just a very gradual change from full soft to full hard through the span of the clicker settings



I see there is some confusion regarding how many clicker settings your Teins have. I suggest you find the owners manual or call Tein w/the model no. of your springs.

Please note: The clicker settings will have little effect on that 14K front spring
hi, I just went to do another alignment today one of my rear tyres got flated and need to replace, and then after the alignment I find out the both front camber plate screw is in different position, I can show you the picture
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Hi Eddy

Not a big deal, but a good alignment shop would position the upper camber adjustment in the same position left & right. Also, looks like the allen headed bolts were installed in the avail holes

The allen headed camber bolts can be put into any of the those mounting holes (makes no diff other than its not even)

Next alignment, advise the shop to even out the upper pillow ball camber plates to side to side & install the allen headed bolts in the same holes left & right

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Old Dec 23, 2016 | 07:12 AM
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Hi Eddy

Not a big deal, but a good alignment shop would position the upper camber adjustment in the same position left & right. Also, looks like the allen headed bolts were installed in the avail holes

The allen headed camber bolts can be put into any of the those mounting holes (makes no diff other than its not even)

Next alignment, advise the shop to even out the upper pillow ball camber plates to side to side & install the allen headed bolts in the same holes left & right
oh I see thanks so much
so by you mean the headed bolt were installed in the avail holes, you mean they did that by purpose? What does that actually do?
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Originally Posted by eddy5201314
oh I see thanks so much
so by you mean the headed bolt were installed in the avail holes, you mean they did that by purpose? What does that actually do?
Those allen headed bolts lock-in the camber settings. If they are loosened, you can slide the shock in the slotted opening adjusting camber

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Originally Posted by eddy5201314
I just want to know that for the damper setting, there's about 31 clicks total adjustment, but I know the Tein monosport is only 16 way damper adjustment, so I want to know is the first 16 click start from soft is adjusting the damper or is the last 16 clicks starting from all the way to the full hard is adjusting the damper?
Because I heard if I past more than 16 clicks can damage the shock so I just want to make this clear, thank you
There are only 16 clicks of adjustment on the Monosport, as well as many other Tein damper kits. I deal with quite a lot of them at work

Start at full clockwise. That is setting 1, which is full stiff.

Now go counter clockwise, one click at a time, until you hit 16. You can use any of the settings 1 through 16.

DO NOT drive with the dampers set at anything less than 16, as it is possible that the damper could be damaged. And then shipping them from NZ to have them rebuilt would totally suck!

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Old Dec 23, 2016 | 09:23 PM
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With regard to the concern that it is overly stiff. Who installed these?

It is possible that if you adjust the height using the spring seat instead of adjusting via the lower bracket, that you could lower the piston shaft all the way down into the body thus removing all the stroke, and you'd be riding on the bumpstop...and increasing your spring rate to near rigid. While i highly doubt that is the case, it wouldn't be the first time its happened.

And as for why Tein chooses the spring rates they do, particularly with any damper that is intended for street use, they are typically looking to achieve the best ride quality possible. Have you ever noticed that with an aggressively (rear) sprung car or truck, putting passengers or cargo in the back smoothes it out? Same idea.

I do understand that for optimal performance, the Evo does require higher rates in the rear due to the motion ratio being less than 1:1. Just trying to offer some perspective.
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