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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 10:49 PM
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Something Fun... Donuts anyone

My friends STI does donuts like crazy, from left to right, in circles, etc.... But i just cant get my EVO to break into donuts even in the rain. I have a bigger sway bar, fully stiffened, the rear only comes out slightly when i get off the gas.. i wanna do some awd rain donuts or something.. heeellppp.. the advantage the STI has is his controllable differentials... I cant pull the handbrake to help, since that messes up our cars.... any fun suggestions...??/

yes i know its abusive and stupid, but thats my choice.. . hehe
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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 10:50 PM
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if you do donuts in the evo you WILL blow the power steering pump
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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 10:55 PM
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only if i hold the steering wheel fully turned...
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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 06:21 AM
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Someone here posted a small vid of an awesome donut in the dry at a random gas station. Maybe he has some tips.
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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by zlancer
if you do donuts in the evo you WILL blow the power steering pump

Um NO! I was in the passenger seat of an evo who did over 15 consecutive spins in a parking lot. Then 2 others proceeded to go at it as well. NO PS pumps blowing up.
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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 07:01 AM
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For the Sti busting donuts chalk it up to the DCCD.(driver control center diff.) You can manually set the bias on your diff up to 65rear/35 front and get the car to act pretty well like a RWD. So it's a whole lot easier to get the back end to break loose in it oppposed to an EVO. I know this as I've got one in the garage. But I still like the EVO better due to it's more nimble handling feel. The Sti steering is a little heavier and you have to muscle the car more to get it to *try* to handle like an EVO 8. And why would you want to do donut's anyway? Didn't you buy your EVO so you could haul a** and not lose the back end?
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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 07:45 AM
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For the Sti busting donuts chalk it up to the DCCD.(driver control center diff.) You can manually set the bias on your diff up to 65rear/35 front and get the car to act pretty well like a RWD.
does anyone know the biases for the 3 ACD settings (tarmac, gravel and snow)?
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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 07:50 AM
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screw all you bias bastards. That man bought his car to have some fun, and you guys are not helping at all! Bunch of hating mongules.

You have to do it with a start. Roll start the car, punch accelerate, tap the brake, pull the Emergency brake handle first before you turn the steering, punch the accelerator, release the emergency brake handle before you turn the steering (all this is in real fast simultaneous motion), turn the steering, stay in 1st gear the whole time, control gas pedal as needed while keeping the steering turned. You want to stay above 3500 RPM since if you bog the cars gonna want to go straight.

I think you could also do a stand still donut. You have to slip the clutch at 4000RPM or so and as soon as you release it, you have to turn the steering real fast full tilt. Then control gas pedal and stay in 1st gear.

It's not going to be a perfect circle like the RWD cars. It'll be more of an Eclipse, since your front tire will keep you moving.

If you do this and have fun with your investment, i'll be happy. If you break stuff and you have to fix it, well, that's tough but you had your fun with it.

I'm gonna do this this weekend too. Screw all you hating fools. I'd do this with a semi truck if I want to. It's my money, it's my car, it's my life, and life's too short to do the whole "what if".

RIGHT?

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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 07:56 AM
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I think you will have better luck on dry pavement. The front tires need to catch a little to put the Evo in a spin. If you do it in the wet, you just end up spinning all 4 and over steering. Doing donuts is going to work your center Diff a bit, be cautious of that and have a blast showing those v8 rwd boys that we do it better ;P
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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 08:02 AM
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It's so much easier to do it with RWD. All you have to do is slip clutch and launch tilt steering... The *** slides and tires burn.

I've seen STI do this so many countless times. Even the WRC cars doing 80mph side drift and from there doing a 360 to launch.

sweet.

In common sense, Tarmac will be all wheel drive at 50/50, gravel will be more of a RWD setting at 70/30 and Snow will be more of a 30/70 acting like a Front wheel Drive.

And Active YAW control doing the side to side thing.

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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 08:03 AM
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Vegasboy301 posted a video of one of our local guys doing donuts in the rain. It can be done and he was stock at the time. He was spinning countless times in a wet parking lot.
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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by plokivos
You have to do it with a start. Roll start the car, punch accelerate, break fast, pull the Emergency brake handle first before you turn the steering, punch the accelerator, release the emergency brake handle before you turn the steering, turn the steering, stay in 1st gear, control gas pedal as needed while keeping the steering turned.

I'd do this with a semi truck if I want to. It's my money, it's my car, it's my life, and life's too short to do the whole "what if".

RIGHT?
If you would like to load up your center dif by holding the e-brake then so be it. Some can not afford to worry about blowing differentials by purposely making them fight against themselves just to kick the *** end out. Donuts are for RWD cars with decent low end tq not for 4 cylinder turbocharged, AWD cars. Burnouts and donuts are something EVO owners will just have to live without, and even for cars which can do them less destructively, they're still not the best thing for your car.
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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 08:07 AM
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It wont be a load on the center diff when the E brake is on when the car is going straight on 1st gear

It's a load when you turn the steering wheel and E brake, that's where you get hurt, since the torque differential wants to turn the load wheels but it can't.
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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 01:26 PM
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As I understand it the entire drive train from front to back is essentially 1 unit, there is nothing to separate the front wheels from the back. If the back wheels stop spinning and the front ones don't, you're probably up s**t creek. If the back wheels get locked, then it's up to the center diff to stop everything or break.

As for the rain thing, I’m sure it can be done. I was just explaining why it would be easier on dry pavement...imo.
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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 01:32 PM
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Doing donuts while running the stock Advans, is just begging for a drivetrain failure.
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