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Old Sep 28, 2002 | 06:44 PM
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Yeah somebody over there needs to jump at the chance of starting RALLIART-USA...the replacement parts and aftermarket parts are really good....plus then you won't have to pay an arm and leg for middle man (parts importer)
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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 09:36 PM
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Post EVO VIII Info

Hey, don't know if this website has been posted yet, but I found this while surfing the net. Looks like there will be more pictures up later, so I'll keep my eye on it and let you all know if pictures do show up.

http://www.davismitsubishi.com/index...erlink&Link=55
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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 11:16 PM
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nice link speedkillz, hope it's the truth!!!!!
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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 11:27 PM
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Are the pictures on that website working?
For me they don't show up
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 12:20 AM
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That is link is nothing but a dealership that posted Evo VII specs.
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 02:37 AM
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Yes, I did realize that the information listed there is nothing more than EVO VII specs. However, if you check the information on the pictures that do not showup, they appear to be pretty promising. That is why I posted the link. Hopefully the pictures will work soon, and quite possibly give us a view of the EVO VIII that we have not seen yet.
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 03:50 AM
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if you check the information on the pictures that do not showup, they appear to be pretty promising
What do you mean by this? What information? I just see x's where the pics should be. I would be suprised if they were something we hadn't already seen....they may even be pics of an Evo VII..considering the specs they list are for the VII
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 05:47 AM
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Originally posted by SouthernCrane
nice link speedkillz, hope it's the truth!!!!!

the pics are linked directly from the hard drive no wonder they are not working.

someone want to e-mail them as tell them they need to upload the pictures to a webserver/web host service first
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 06:45 AM
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If you will not be getting the AYC system in the U.S., perhaps it is a blessing. There is a downside.

It is fraught with complications. Besides reliability concerns, I don’t like the funky things AYC can do in a serious corner.

I for one will be glad to be rid of mine.
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Old Oct 8, 2002 | 03:43 AM
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Question Please explain

Originally posted by Braf
If you will not be getting the AYC system in the U.S., perhaps it is a blessing. There is a downside.

It is fraught with complications. Besides reliability concerns, I don’t like the funky things AYC can do in a serious corner.

I for one will be glad to be rid of mine.
Thnx for the post. Are you new to the forums? If so, welcome.
Your post sounded like you have an evo vii ? and are not happy with the AYC. If you could explain exactly why or how much it cost to get fixed or what broke I would realy appreciate it. To me it sounds like a great system. I am almost always against any kind of electronic car control. I hate traction control and any kind of stability assistance cause a good driver can prevent traction loss and stability loss by driving the car better. However, as I understand it mitsu's AYC and ACD both do things that no driver can do from inside the car. There is no way to modulate gas between the left and right wheels and no way to cause more or less to go front/back.

Thnx for the info
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Old Oct 8, 2002 | 05:38 AM
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I just recently came across linked from MLR. Interesting speculations on the U.S. market Evo.

I am an original owner of an E5 GSR. I love my car. My car was one subject to the AYC ECU recall. Though I have serviced the diff. on the accelerated schedule the clutch packs in the diff are seriously worn. I suspect that at elevated power levels premature failure of the clutches are likely even in a normally functioning AYC unit. Mitsubishi to date does not offer a repair option for the AYC differential. You have to buy a new unit. I don’t know the cost.

Compounding my experiences and suspicions, I just don’t like the feel and effect of the AYC system. After using my car as a daily drive for four years I have a strong unshakeable impression that AYC is often counterproductive. I have not yet modified to an LSD unit but have a fairly strong intuition that this mod will better suit my driving style. I actually feel more comfortable with AYC off, leaving me with an open diff! My original post was somewhat cautious, as I can’t speak from an experience with the LSD alternative.

Finally, I consider the extra weight of the AYC system a serious liability. Even if AYC lives up to the claims I wonder if it can be worth the extra mass? I have driven an E7 and had mixed feelings about the experience. To be fair the car was stock and mine is modified. The comparison was complicated.

I appreciate that there will be people who think otherwise than I do. I am not trying to convince anyone or sell my impressions. If anyone has a strong opposite impression to mine that’s fine too. I’m not looking for an argument here.
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Old Oct 8, 2002 | 05:52 AM
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Didn't they replace the AYC in the 7??? I thought they worked out all the bugs???

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Old Oct 8, 2002 | 05:59 AM
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Yes the AYC in the 7 is MUCH more improved than that of a 5, both in terms of reliability and performance.
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Old Oct 8, 2002 | 06:07 AM
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Hey Braf,

I don't know how much or if its even possible, but maybe you should switch out your old AYC for one of the much improved ones. Just a thought.

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Old Oct 9, 2002 | 08:07 AM
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Nah. I'll just try some LSD.

Yep, the E7 is supposed to have been inoculated against the bug. The problem was with the software for the ECU that controls the AYC diff. Apparently it would attempt to engage both clutches simultaneously under specific circumstances. Essentially this made AYC an expensive yet ineffective, technologically advanced brake.

The E7 does offer the addition of an active centre diff. allowing biasing between the front and rear wheels. Previously this job was handled by a viscous coupling.

Like the man says, “Please, consider the following”.

Mitsubishi has put some serious technology into these late model Evos. The bits are designed based on what they have learned from their rally racing programs. The parts for their rally cars are seriously expensive. Frankly, our cars are cheep in price. An Evo is a very big bang, for your buck.

If you are like me, here’s what you go and do. You buy a great road car that can comfortably produce 270 something HP and harass it into delivering over 350. Now you add the strong clutch and wallop it into four large tires. If you are careful perhaps you don’t crack your transfer case but long term you know you are wearing out something!

When someone wants to build Group N rally car they start with the RS version of the breed. No AYC, significantly less mass. The paragraph below is a quote from Co-ordSport titled "Special road car conversions".

We now have available a mechanical LSD assy which can be installed in the AYC rear differential assy of the Evolution 4 -6 (from February 2002 also the Evo. 7). So if you have any problems with your AYC system you can transform it to mechanical
operation. A must for reliable regular track day use!

I’m not trying to scare or dissuade anybody. I love my car and would replace it with the same in a second. I was only trying to say, no AYC would not be such a big deal, perhaps a blessing. Every cloud has a silver lining. Blah, blah, blah.

Ouch, getting kind of tech for this thread. Perhaps it should be moved? Feel free.


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