Originally Posted by marksae

If we're always riding on our bumpstops our cars would handle like absolute ****. And why would you say the shocks are too soft? The ride is pretty damn bonejarrying to me.

Originally Posted by plokivos

They close that thread down? Why? You could say Jap, but you can't say Jew?

I guess I can't say white people or black people either. I guess I have to say Anglo saxon heritage people and african descendent american people.

wtf

Originally Posted by 00R101

What you are feeling is not bump steer. Bump steer is the change in toe as the suspension is compressed or as it is expanded. In general, this change is subtle and not terribly noticeable on street cars.

What you are experiencing is simple physics. We have stiffly sprung cars. When there is a pothole and you are turning the tire loses contact with the ground and the momentum of the car carries it straight until the tire contacts the ground. In other words the car does a little dance or wiggle. That wiggle may have rotated the car in a slightly different direction than before so, when grip returns, it takes off in that new direction.

Also you my be experiencing tramlining. Tram-lining is what happens when your tire gets into some rut on the road and the steering pulls to follow that rut. Cars that have little play in their suspension bushings and/or that have no toe-in or maybe even a little toe-out and/or have wide, stiff tires and/or rotate easily experience tram-lining more frequently than typical family cars. The Evo has all these things and tram-lines badly. That's the price you pay for having a precise steering, easily rotated fun to drive car.

So, in short, what you describe is perfectly normal in our cars and not bump steer.

Regards,
Alan

Originally Posted by chronohunter

Absolutely correct {thumb up} The other factor is not just the low profile tires in general but the spec'd tire on our car. The factory tires have the stiffest inside sidewall of any tire I have ever tested (and I do test tires ). They cause the miss diagnosed bumpsteer some of you guys are talking about.

We are not riding on our bump stops, the stock suspension is a little harsh but overall among the best stock suspensions ever put on a car at any price. That is not to say you can't make it even better (Ohlins anyone!). BTW the stock set-up is PERFECT on gravel and in the wet, as in rally car race set-up perfect. That makes it a little soft for dry track use but a damn good compromise all-around. EVO's RULE (we should have a special smiley just for that ).