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navysandsquid Nov 2, 2010 11:25 AM

Navysandsquid's MAP 2.4 FP Black E85 Build
 
OLD BUILD

Kelford 272
walbro 255
arp Head studs
Zietronix o2/boost/egt
forge Unos MBC
TTP Meth Kit
ETS 3.5" Intercooler
Supertech Valve springs/retainers,
injen intake/intercooler piping
XSPOWER TB Exhaust
Forge Rs BOV
ACT HDSS TTP 6 Puck
Stock ECU
Stock Turbo 24 psi 30 Peak psi
374.1 AWHP 407.9 TRQ on Mustang TUNED BY TTP ENGINEERING

Then The Wife took it to school 40,000 Miles later

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q...y/IMAG0121.jpg

So I Flat beaded the Car From Manitowoc WI, to Modern Auto Performance to get a "Forced Upgrade" :)


NEW BUILD

MAP 2.4 Stage 2
MAP Stage 1 Head
Kelford 272
Supertech Valve springs/retainers/Valves
Buschar Double Pump
MAP HP 8740 Head Studs
Aeromotive A1000 Fuel Pressure Regulator
ARP Main Studs
FIC Blue Max 1450cc
Vinshu Cam gears
HKS DII Ignition
MAP o2 Housing
Zietronix o2/boost/egt
Forge Unos MBC
ETS 3.5" Intercooler
injen intake/intercooler piping
XSPOWER TB Exhaust
Forge Rs BOV
ACT HDSS TTP 6 Puck
Stock ECU
FP BLACK TURBO
JACKS TRANSMISSION Rebuild
E85

MAP is a Amazing Shop and have great customer service Thus Far I guess the Short block will be assembled this week. Hopin for 600HP

PICS UPDATE
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q...y/PC092330.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q...y/PC092333.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q...y/PC092334.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q...y/PC092336.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q...y/PC102339.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q...y/PC102340.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q..._6805348_n.jpg

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...ml#post9088403

Link to dyno ^^^^^^

05blue8 Nov 2, 2010 11:32 AM

Here piston piston piston...I know you're around here somewhere...

O U C H!

Earthen Nov 2, 2010 11:37 AM

Nice, curious what your numbers will be.

navysandsquid Dec 11, 2010 04:41 PM

Picture update waiting for my FP BLACK maybe early January

KWezzy Dec 11, 2010 04:59 PM

Beautiful build man please keep me updated{thumbup}

RockmanX Dec 11, 2010 07:16 PM

NEW BUILD

MAP 2.4 Stage 2
MAP Stage 1 Head
Kelford 272
Supertech Valve springs/retainers/Valves
Buschar Double Pump
MAP HP 8740 Head Studs
Aeromotive A1000 Fuel Pressure Regulator
ARP Main Studs
FIC Blue Max 1450cc
Vinshu Cam gears
HKS DII Ignition
MAP o2 Housing
Zietronix o2/boost/egt
Forge Unos MBC
ETS 3.5" Intercooler
injen intake/intercooler piping
XSPOWER TB Exhaust
Forge Rs BOV
ACT HDSS TTP 6 Puck
Stock ECU
FP BLACK TURBO
JACKS TRANSMISSION Rebuild
E85

you hoping for 600? you are going to need to upgrade the spring in your FORGE MBC to a stiffer one trust me i know. Im not sure about that clutch holding all that power either might want to consider upgrading to exedy twin hd. Not sure the bov is going to hold that much psi either without leaking to be honest you will be around 35psi or higher to net your 600. Everything else looks solid. Im surprised MAP did not say anything about those parts

SyZyGy1394 Dec 11, 2010 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by RockmanX (Post 8906415)
Im not sure about that clutch holding all that power either might want to consider upgrading to exedy twin hd. Not sure the bov is going to hold that much psi either without leaking to be honest you will be around 35psi or higher to net your 600. Everything else looks solid. Im surprised MAP did not say anything about those parts

Seriously? You need to stop chiming in on things you don't even have a clue about. Clutches are rated in torque, not horsepower.:lol: I'm sure that clutch will last perfectly fine as long as he knows how to properly use a clutch and not slipping the **** out of it.

Heck the STOCK clutch can hold 400wtq. 400wtq @ 7500rpm = ~570whp. Not saying the stock clutch will like it though.:updown:

If you had half a brain, you would understand why some people make the clutch the weakest link in their drivetrain...

RockmanX Dec 11, 2010 08:49 PM


Originally Posted by SyZyGy1394 (Post 8906476)
Seriously? You need to stop chiming in on things you don't even have a clue about. Clutches are rated in torque, not horsepower.:lol: I'm sure that clutch will last perfectly fine as long as he knows how to properly use a clutch and not slipping the **** out of it.

Heck the STOCK clutch can hold 400wtq. 400wtq @ 7500rpm = ~570whp. Not saying the stock clutch will like it though.:updown:

If you had half a brain, you would understand why some people make the clutch the weakest link in their drivetrain...

I know whats up and i know clutches are rated in tq i was equating the whp to the tq. But i see your the type that needs it explained fully. Its a forum we can comment on anything. Nothing is stopping anybody from hitting the search button and verifying any bit of information received {thumbup}

wreckless969 Dec 11, 2010 09:17 PM

A lot of times people set their clutch to give at a lower threshold to prevent damage to the trans, it's cheaper to do a clutch rebuild then replace a tranny :lol:

RyuEvoIX Dec 11, 2010 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by RockmanX (Post 8906415)
NEW BUILD

MAP 2.4 Stage 2
MAP Stage 1 Head
Kelford 272
Supertech Valve springs/retainers/Valves
Buschar Double Pump
MAP HP 8740 Head Studs
Aeromotive A1000 Fuel Pressure Regulator
ARP Main Studs
FIC Blue Max 1450cc
Vinshu Cam gears
HKS DII Ignition
MAP o2 Housing
Zietronix o2/boost/egt
Forge Unos MBC
ETS 3.5" Intercooler
injen intake/intercooler piping
XSPOWER TB Exhaust
Forge Rs BOV
ACT HDSS TTP 6 Puck
Stock ECU
FP BLACK TURBO
JACKS TRANSMISSION Rebuild
E85

you hoping for 600? you are going to need to upgrade the spring in your FORGE MBC to a stiffer one trust me i know. Im not sure about that clutch holding all that power either might want to consider upgrading to exedy twin hd. Not sure the bov is going to hold that much psi either without leaking to be honest you will be around 35psi or higher to net your 600. Everything else looks solid. Im surprised MAP did not say anything about those parts

There is nothing wrong with the choice in blow off valve. I have had mine hold up to 46psi on an FP Black. It doesn't leak. Personally I would step it up to a 4inch ETS intercooler with a 600whp goal in mind.

keath Dec 12, 2010 04:19 AM

i am close to 600, not quite but the act is holding up quite welll

MuslimEvoFreak Dec 12, 2010 04:45 AM

Congrats on your build man! I am sad because I have to ruin my 2.4L plans... :'(...Anyways, why didn't you go with MAP Stage 2 block? I am just curious because with E-85 and an fp black I am assuming you want at the very least 500whp. When I was putting the 2.4L together I was planning on going with a similar set-up to yours...fp black and e-85 but stage 2. Also, let me know how the transmission rebuild from Jacks holds up with the ACT. What compression are you running on the motor and I wonder if you switch to GSC S2's how much more power can you make? Good luck and keep us posted on the car!

gotrnet Dec 12, 2010 05:10 AM

well i run a 2.4 that makes 661awhp 650ft lbs torque. i had a hdss act 6 puck and it held fine to about 580 ft lbs. then it slipped once and would never hold the power after that so i had to upgrade to a twin disc setup as well. would recommend going ahead and upgrading to aviod any down time later. the 2.4 makes great torque but is hell on clutches. my max hp and max torque numbers have never been more than 25 apart. good luck.

navysandsquid Dec 12, 2010 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by RockmanX (Post 8906415)
NEW BUILD

MAP 2.4 Stage 2
MAP Stage 1 Head
Kelford 272
Supertech Valve springs/retainers/Valves
Buschar Double Pump
MAP HP 8740 Head Studs
Aeromotive A1000 Fuel Pressure Regulator
ARP Main Studs
FIC Blue Max 1450cc
Vinshu Cam gears
HKS DII Ignition
MAP o2 Housing
Zietronix o2/boost/egt
Forge Unos MBC
ETS 3.5" Intercooler
injen intake/intercooler piping
XSPOWER TB Exhaust
Forge Rs BOV
ACT HDSS TTP 6 Puck
Stock ECU
FP BLACK TURBO
JACKS TRANSMISSION Rebuild
E85

you hoping for 600? you are going to need to upgrade the spring in your FORGE MBC to a stiffer one trust me i know. Im not sure about that clutch holding all that power either might want to consider upgrading to exedy twin hd. Not sure the bov is going to hold that much psi either without leaking to be honest you will be around 35psi or higher to net your 600. Everything else looks solid. Im surprised MAP did not say anything about those parts

I talk to them about the springs in the MBC they said they would change them if needed. As I said before I have a lot of money in this right now the ACT 6 Puck advertises 650 LBs of TRQ. We will see if not then I will step it up.

n2oiroc Dec 12, 2010 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by gotrnet (Post 8906884)
well i run a 2.4 that makes 661awhp 650ft lbs torque. i had a hdss act 6 puck and it held fine to about 580 ft lbs. then it slipped once and would never hold the power after that so i had to upgrade to a twin disc setup as well. would recommend going ahead and upgrading to aviod any down time later. the 2.4 makes great torque but is hell on clutches. my max hp and max torque numbers have never been more than 25 apart. good luck.

different discs on the hdss.


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