SS clutch line/restrictor pill?
Originally Posted by ldstang50
Basically what you pay is what you get. ACT buys its pressure plates off of exede, powder coats them yelloe and throws in a cheaper clutch disc. The pressure plate is steel, thus being very heavy. The steel pressure plate has more centrifugal force than a Exede clutch when spinning at high rpms. The weak synchros in our trannies are unable to slow up the pressure plate and clutch in time for you to engage gears correctly and effeciently. Plus for the gripping power you get, the clutch is heavy. An exede twin disc has a lighter pedal feel but holds more, yes I know its a twin disc so it should. Also my pedal feel is not consistent at all. My main thing is, I did not have ANY transmission problems till I put this clutch in about a year ago. It has done very well with holding up to 60+ drag strip launches and many street launches. But you get what you pay for. At the time thats all I could afford, would I go back to ACT, not if the money is good, I'll spend the extra loot and get an Exede.
My other experiences with ACT clutches are on DSMs. ACT is the only clutch I have seen come completely apart. I've seen many ACTs where the springs rip out or fall out of the clutch disc. This on 300whp cars! No where near the limits of the clutch.
I just had a bad experience with ACT, not a horrible one.
My other experiences with ACT clutches are on DSMs. ACT is the only clutch I have seen come completely apart. I've seen many ACTs where the springs rip out or fall out of the clutch disc. This on 300whp cars! No where near the limits of the clutch.
I just had a bad experience with ACT, not a horrible one.
Please stop spreading Internet Paranoia. I have seen a TON of clutches shred to pieces and NONE were ACTs. So what now?
Originally Posted by EVOTEXAS
And yet the fastest EVO in the country runs one just fine. Please stop spreading Internet Paranoia. I have seen a TON of clutches shred to pieces and NONE were ACTs. So what now?
Please stop spreading Internet Paranoia. I have seen a TON of clutches shred to pieces and NONE were ACTs. So what now?Chew on these for a while
Here is one pic of a spring falling out of an ACT2600 for NO reason
I'll have some more for you in a min.
Please don't speak unless you know what you are speaking about.
And I dont' care what the fastest evo in the country runs for a clutch, if I did i would have asked. What clutch does Al run? What clutch does Curt run? Ask Al what he thinks about the ACT clutches.
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=133330
Its so bad in the DSM community, there is a poll about ACT clutches failing. Take a look. Internet paranoia? Don't think so, just facts. You can sit down now and feel stupid
Its so bad in the DSM community, there is a poll about ACT clutches failing. Take a look. Internet paranoia? Don't think so, just facts. You can sit down now and feel stupid
I don' feel stupid at all. How many ACT cars are out there? How many examples did you provide? Give me a break. I will also point out to you that I can VERY EASILY DESTROY ANY CLUTCH within minutes if I wanted to. Heck, even you can! Ever heard of a bad driver? There are 100's of factors in a clutch failure. Posting a few pictures is hardly putting me in my place. 
I also want to add that EVERY EXAMPLE you have cited have been DSM's. They are not the same.
I will also point out to you that I can VERY EASILY DESTROY ANY CLUTCH within minutes if I wanted to. Heck, even you can! Ever heard of a bad driver? There are 100's of factors in a clutch failure. Posting a few pictures is hardly putting me in my place. I also want to add that EVERY EXAMPLE you have cited have been DSM's. They are not the same.
Last edited by EVOTEXAS; Jan 13, 2005 at 02:27 PM.
I thought this thread was supposed to be about SS clutch lines and restrictor pills... 
Anyway, I bought my EVO used and it already had a SS clutchline installed. How would I know for sure if the pill is removed or not? And if I have to physically check for it, where can I find it? Thanks...
Anyway, I bought my EVO used and it already had a SS clutchline installed. How would I know for sure if the pill is removed or not? And if I have to physically check for it, where can I find it? Thanks...
Originally Posted by DaGuL
I thought this thread was supposed to be about SS clutch lines and restrictor pills... Anyway, I bought my EVO used and it already had a SS clutchline installed. How would I know for sure if the pill is removed or not? And if I have to physically check for it, where can I find it? Thanks...
Anyway, I bought my EVO used and it already had a SS clutchline installed. How would I know for sure if the pill is removed or not? And if I have to physically check for it, where can I find it? Thanks...
yes I have listed DSMs you are right. In my Evo I had a bad experience. Lets take this to PMs and stop taking up this thread.
DaGuL-
The only way I know to check to see if the restrictor is removed is to physically check. As far as pedal fell, I would think when releasing the clutch it should feel different. But then again, if you don't know what one feels like with it in, how are you to know if its out by feel?
DaGuL-
The only way I know to check to see if the restrictor is removed is to physically check. As far as pedal fell, I would think when releasing the clutch it should feel different. But then again, if you don't know what one feels like with it in, how are you to know if its out by feel?
Originally Posted by EVOTEXAS
The pill is in the slave cylinder under the intake. You have to remove it and open it to see it. You can't just tell by looking. YOu could just do 10 clutch drops from 7K and see if your clutch spins or your TC breaks. Or if you have an ACT you can tell if it blows up!
At least I know where to look now... I gotta remove the SS line and put some teflon tape on it anyway, coz it's leaking where it threads into the hardline that goes to the slave cylinder...Another question to entertain you guys with... What the heck does it look like? Something similar to boost pill on a larger scale???
Does it involve disassembling the slave cylinder aside from removing it from the tranny? Thanks....
Originally Posted by ldstang50
yes I have listed DSMs you are right. In my Evo I had a bad experience. Lets take this to PMs and stop taking up this thread.
DaGuL-
The only way I know to check to see if the restrictor is removed is to physically check. As far as pedal fell, I would think when releasing the clutch it should feel different. But then again, if you don't know what one feels like with it in, how are you to know if its out by feel?
DaGuL-
The only way I know to check to see if the restrictor is removed is to physically check. As far as pedal fell, I would think when releasing the clutch it should feel different. But then again, if you don't know what one feels like with it in, how are you to know if its out by feel?
Last edited by DaGuL; Jan 13, 2005 at 02:58 PM.
When you take off the slave, you unscrew the bottom bleed screw. It is in there. You need something small and thin to dig it out. It's a little black round piece of plastic with a tiny tiny tiny hole in the middle with a spring behind it.
Originally Posted by EVOTEXAS
When you take off the slave, you unscrew the bottom bleed screw. It is in there. You need something small and thin to dig it out. It's a little black round piece of plastic with a tiny tiny tiny hole in the middle with a spring behind it.
1g's did not have restrictors. They were introduced in the 2g's.
The restrictor is located once you take off the banjo bolt at the slave cylinder. Here's a picture of how it looks like once it's out:
The restrictor is located once you take off the banjo bolt at the slave cylinder. Here's a picture of how it looks like once it's out:
Originally Posted by marksae
1g's did not have restrictors. They were introduced in the 2g's.
The restrictor is located once you take off the banjo bolt at the slave cylinder. Here's a picture of how it looks like once it's out:
The restrictor is located once you take off the banjo bolt at the slave cylinder. Here's a picture of how it looks like once it's out:
Okay... Now I know what to look for... Thanks for all the help guys... The only other question I can think of with the restrictor pill set aside, what's the difference in just switching to a SS clutchline? I can grasp the concept of why you would do that to your brake lines, but how does it apply to the clutch pedal?
Another question, probably sounds stupid, but has anyone considered modifying the restrictor pill? I.E. making the center hole bigger, putting multiple holes in it, clipping the spring or anything like that? Just curious if anyone has tried that. Thanks again...
Another question, probably sounds stupid, but has anyone considered modifying the restrictor pill? I.E. making the center hole bigger, putting multiple holes in it, clipping the spring or anything like that? Just curious if anyone has tried that. Thanks again...
I had my SS clutch line in before and after I removed the restrictor. With the clutch restrictor in place, the SS clutch line alone didn't do too much to help improve shift quality. I still had to step on the clutch, wait, then shift to get smooth shifts. The restrictor slows down clutch engagement and disengagement. Once the restictor was out, I was able to get smooth shifts without having to wait. On my car, it made the most dramatic improvement in shift quality.
I heard that Dirk@ACT recommends boring out the existing restrictor. I'm not sure if anyone here has tried it.
I heard that Dirk@ACT recommends boring out the existing restrictor. I'm not sure if anyone here has tried it.