How To: Fog Lights ANYTIME
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UPDATE:
thank you all for being so patient. The last couple nights I haven't been home. Most of these that are paid for are ready to go out the door. I made some new circuit boards and the programmed chip is working. I have a few to finish up tonight/tomorrow early am and they will ALL be out the door 100% sure tomorrow and I will be caught up and I plan to make several more this weekend to be sitting on the shelf ready to go as ordered. I'll slap up a quick order page for them too for those that still want in on this.
Again thanks for being so patient while I get my stuff together.
I really like these new ones and the way they work!
thank you all for being so patient. The last couple nights I haven't been home. Most of these that are paid for are ready to go out the door. I made some new circuit boards and the programmed chip is working. I have a few to finish up tonight/tomorrow early am and they will ALL be out the door 100% sure tomorrow and I will be caught up and I plan to make several more this weekend to be sitting on the shelf ready to go as ordered. I'll slap up a quick order page for them too for those that still want in on this.
Again thanks for being so patient while I get my stuff together.
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Well I am embarassed to say I made a mistake this weekend
I feel terrible about this for those of you whose money I already have. Children really do make you lose your mind. However I fixed the mistake and its working great in mine with infinite on and off whenever I want. I have to defend my thesis on wednesday and I still have to get my presentation done, but with this over my head it makes it hard to concentrate so those that have orders in they will be gone before wednesday for SURE! Like I said I fixed the prblem and the part I needed in bulk will be on my door step tongight so I will finish them up quickly.
There has been a change in these. To keep them cheap and simple you no longer will be tapping into the fog lamp wire at the switch, you will have to cut it and splice it to two seperate wires. This will alow the factory functionality to work even if something happens to the module internally, and it allows the module to work too. The reason for this is in my investigating my problem this weekend I found that the factory ECU is pushing 2volts on the line for sensing the ground. Well my module has 5 volts on the chip so it will sense the ground. I am not sure if there would be any effect back to the ECU or not if that 5 volts bleed back but I don't want to risk it at all. Thats why splicing is necessary because I have to diode isolate the two circuits. I'll include the connectors too. Just one more wire to hookup. But it works so much nicer with the ability to turn it right back on.
Sorry again for all this time it has taken me. Life has just been crazy lately. Another couple weeks and it will slow waaaay down, but I'll have these out before then and even have made some more. I shot myself in the foot changing the design and going to a printed circuit board, but in the end its much nicer on both accounts and your getting a better product. i just needed more time than I thought I would need to work the bugs out. But those of you with standing orders know that if I have to skip sleeping yours WILL go out in one or two days at the absolute latest. You have my word on that.
I feel terrible about this for those of you whose money I already have. Children really do make you lose your mind. However I fixed the mistake and its working great in mine with infinite on and off whenever I want. I have to defend my thesis on wednesday and I still have to get my presentation done, but with this over my head it makes it hard to concentrate so those that have orders in they will be gone before wednesday for SURE! Like I said I fixed the prblem and the part I needed in bulk will be on my door step tongight so I will finish them up quickly.
There has been a change in these. To keep them cheap and simple you no longer will be tapping into the fog lamp wire at the switch, you will have to cut it and splice it to two seperate wires. This will alow the factory functionality to work even if something happens to the module internally, and it allows the module to work too. The reason for this is in my investigating my problem this weekend I found that the factory ECU is pushing 2volts on the line for sensing the ground. Well my module has 5 volts on the chip so it will sense the ground. I am not sure if there would be any effect back to the ECU or not if that 5 volts bleed back but I don't want to risk it at all. Thats why splicing is necessary because I have to diode isolate the two circuits. I'll include the connectors too. Just one more wire to hookup. But it works so much nicer with the ability to turn it right back on.
Sorry again for all this time it has taken me. Life has just been crazy lately. Another couple weeks and it will slow waaaay down, but I'll have these out before then and even have made some more. I shot myself in the foot changing the design and going to a printed circuit board, but in the end its much nicer on both accounts and your getting a better product. i just needed more time than I thought I would need to work the bugs out. But those of you with standing orders know that if I have to skip sleeping yours WILL go out in one or two days at the absolute latest. You have my word on that.
sounds good, hope your life gets better. This weather is killing me up here in boston, damned 60 degree to 10 degree changes... I keep thinkign its nice enough to work on the car, then it snows.
Well I am embarassed to say I made a mistake this weekend
I feel terrible about this for those of you whose money I already have. Children really do make you lose your mind. However I fixed the mistake and its working great in mine with infinite on and off whenever I want. I have to defend my thesis on wednesday and I still have to get my presentation done, but with this over my head it makes it hard to concentrate so those that have orders in they will be gone before wednesday for SURE! Like I said I fixed the prblem and the part I needed in bulk will be on my door step tongight so I will finish them up quickly.
There has been a change in these. To keep them cheap and simple you no longer will be tapping into the fog lamp wire at the switch, you will have to cut it and splice it to two seperate wires. This will alow the factory functionality to work even if something happens to the module internally, and it allows the module to work too. The reason for this is in my investigating my problem this weekend I found that the factory ECU is pushing 2volts on the line for sensing the ground. Well my module has 5 volts on the chip so it will sense the ground. I am not sure if there would be any effect back to the ECU or not if that 5 volts bleed back but I don't want to risk it at all. Thats why splicing is necessary because I have to diode isolate the two circuits. I'll include the connectors too. Just one more wire to hookup. But it works so much nicer with the ability to turn it right back on.
Sorry again for all this time it has taken me. Life has just been crazy lately. Another couple weeks and it will slow waaaay down, but I'll have these out before then and even have made some more. I shot myself in the foot changing the design and going to a printed circuit board, but in the end its much nicer on both accounts and your getting a better product. i just needed more time than I thought I would need to work the bugs out. But those of you with standing orders know that if I have to skip sleeping yours WILL go out in one or two days at the absolute latest. You have my word on that.
I feel terrible about this for those of you whose money I already have. Children really do make you lose your mind. However I fixed the mistake and its working great in mine with infinite on and off whenever I want. I have to defend my thesis on wednesday and I still have to get my presentation done, but with this over my head it makes it hard to concentrate so those that have orders in they will be gone before wednesday for SURE! Like I said I fixed the prblem and the part I needed in bulk will be on my door step tongight so I will finish them up quickly.
There has been a change in these. To keep them cheap and simple you no longer will be tapping into the fog lamp wire at the switch, you will have to cut it and splice it to two seperate wires. This will alow the factory functionality to work even if something happens to the module internally, and it allows the module to work too. The reason for this is in my investigating my problem this weekend I found that the factory ECU is pushing 2volts on the line for sensing the ground. Well my module has 5 volts on the chip so it will sense the ground. I am not sure if there would be any effect back to the ECU or not if that 5 volts bleed back but I don't want to risk it at all. Thats why splicing is necessary because I have to diode isolate the two circuits. I'll include the connectors too. Just one more wire to hookup. But it works so much nicer with the ability to turn it right back on.
Sorry again for all this time it has taken me. Life has just been crazy lately. Another couple weeks and it will slow waaaay down, but I'll have these out before then and even have made some more. I shot myself in the foot changing the design and going to a printed circuit board, but in the end its much nicer on both accounts and your getting a better product. i just needed more time than I thought I would need to work the bugs out. But those of you with standing orders know that if I have to skip sleeping yours WILL go out in one or two days at the absolute latest. You have my word on that.
-Mitch
I have no problem waiting longer for mine, thanks for keeping us updated.
Heck, sounds like the longer we wait the better it gets! I'll wait for the gold plated version please
Haha!
Heck, sounds like the longer we wait the better it gets! I'll wait for the gold plated version please
Haha!
interesting. I'm still pretty sure there is a way to avoid all that by rerouting a path in the front ecu. however, i'm still to chicken to take the frontecu circuit board out, and mess w/ it. Thank's for the diagram though, and I will look into it.
p.s., I only read the first page, so if this post comes up on page 10, and you guys are like wtf? then that is why.
p.s., I only read the first page, so if this post comes up on page 10, and you guys are like wtf? then that is why.
Tired of only being able to turn the fog lights on with the low beams? The following modification I performed on my 04 Evo piggybacks the stock fog lamp system without cutting any wires and allows the fog lamps to work independently of the low beams. I have looked at the wiring schematics for 03 - 06 Evos and they function the same and use the same switch, so this mod will work on them all.
This modification requires building a small simple circuit with parts availible at your local RadioShack. The circuit is then installed under the dash with 4 simple wire hookups.
Note: This circuit can be switched on and off repeatedly, however once switched off, there is about a 3 second delay before you can switch it back on as the capacitors discharge.
The Circuit
Parts needed:
1 - MPS2222A or similar small-signal NPN
1 - IRF510 n-channel MOSFET
1 - D1 1N4001 silicon diode
1 - R1 1M 0.25W
1 - R2 4.7M 0.25W
1 - R3 10k 0.25W
1 - R4 330k 0.25W
1 - C1 220nF ceramic disc, polyester or mylar film
1 - C2 100nF ceramic disc, polyester or mylar film
2 - 12v relays
Misc Wiring (red, black, white and green used below)
Project Box
1 - Circuit board
Once you have aquired the parts build the following circit:

Note: when wires intersect WITHOUT a dot there is no connection.
There are 4 external connections to this circuit. One connection to ground (white), One to the fog lamp relay's ground (black), one to the fog lamp switch (yellow) and one to a 12v power source(red) (parking lamps, ignition.... this is the power source that will determine when you can switch on your fogs)
(ignore the small red jumper on the left, it was not used)


The extra pin on each relay was cut off as it was not used.

Here is my completed circuit installed into a small project box


Installation
1) Find a suitable location under the dash to mount the box

2) Connect your ground to a chasis ground (white wire from box)

3) Remove the plastic facia from in front of the speedo to access the back of the fog lamp switch
4) Tap into the top wire of the switch (with the yellow wire from the box) - this wire sees ground when the switch is depressed (this was the correct wire on my 04 Evo. I need confirmation that the same switch is used over all the years)

5) Connect your 12v source wire (red) to a wire that has 12v when the ignition is on. This will keep you from leaving the fog lamps on when you turn the key off. You could also connect this wire to the parking lamp power wire or the dash lights. This circuit is VERY low current and will not effect any of the existing electronics.
6) Run the wire labeled "to parking lamp relay" (black) into the engine compartment to the fuse box on the drivers side. The relay pointed to in the picture is the fog lamp relay:

7) To turn the lights on we need to show this relay ground. The contact pointed to is the contact we want our wire connected to. As can be seen in the second picture below here I soldered my wire straight to the relay pin that rests in that contact.


However a modified fuse tap can also be used:

Make sure it is placed in contact with the proper contacts and that it cannot short to any other contact after the relay has been installed (Make sure its firmly in place)

8) Reinstall the relay:


9) Reassemble your dash and pat yourself on the back, its done!
You now have fog lamps that work when YOU want them to work


All pictures located here:
http://www.haughs.net/gallery/main.p...o_viii/fog_mod
This modification requires building a small simple circuit with parts availible at your local RadioShack. The circuit is then installed under the dash with 4 simple wire hookups.
Note: This circuit can be switched on and off repeatedly, however once switched off, there is about a 3 second delay before you can switch it back on as the capacitors discharge.
The Circuit
Parts needed:
1 - MPS2222A or similar small-signal NPN
1 - IRF510 n-channel MOSFET
1 - D1 1N4001 silicon diode
1 - R1 1M 0.25W
1 - R2 4.7M 0.25W
1 - R3 10k 0.25W
1 - R4 330k 0.25W
1 - C1 220nF ceramic disc, polyester or mylar film
1 - C2 100nF ceramic disc, polyester or mylar film
2 - 12v relays
Misc Wiring (red, black, white and green used below)
Project Box
1 - Circuit board
Once you have aquired the parts build the following circit:

Note: when wires intersect WITHOUT a dot there is no connection.
There are 4 external connections to this circuit. One connection to ground (white), One to the fog lamp relay's ground (black), one to the fog lamp switch (yellow) and one to a 12v power source(red) (parking lamps, ignition.... this is the power source that will determine when you can switch on your fogs)
(ignore the small red jumper on the left, it was not used)
The extra pin on each relay was cut off as it was not used.
Here is my completed circuit installed into a small project box
Installation
1) Find a suitable location under the dash to mount the box
2) Connect your ground to a chasis ground (white wire from box)
3) Remove the plastic facia from in front of the speedo to access the back of the fog lamp switch
4) Tap into the top wire of the switch (with the yellow wire from the box) - this wire sees ground when the switch is depressed (this was the correct wire on my 04 Evo. I need confirmation that the same switch is used over all the years)
5) Connect your 12v source wire (red) to a wire that has 12v when the ignition is on. This will keep you from leaving the fog lamps on when you turn the key off. You could also connect this wire to the parking lamp power wire or the dash lights. This circuit is VERY low current and will not effect any of the existing electronics.
6) Run the wire labeled "to parking lamp relay" (black) into the engine compartment to the fuse box on the drivers side. The relay pointed to in the picture is the fog lamp relay:
7) To turn the lights on we need to show this relay ground. The contact pointed to is the contact we want our wire connected to. As can be seen in the second picture below here I soldered my wire straight to the relay pin that rests in that contact.
However a modified fuse tap can also be used:
Make sure it is placed in contact with the proper contacts and that it cannot short to any other contact after the relay has been installed (Make sure its firmly in place)
8) Reinstall the relay:
9) Reassemble your dash and pat yourself on the back, its done!
You now have fog lamps that work when YOU want them to work
All pictures located here:
http://www.haughs.net/gallery/main.p...o_viii/fog_mod
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Well judgement day is in 30 minutes so in a couple hours I will be a free man to go home and make some more modules! Will post an update with pics of completed modules tonight!
Good luck with the judgement bro, hope things go over well. What's your thesis btw?
Also props to the guy who just quoted the entire first page.. took me forever to scroll haha.
Also props to the guy who just quoted the entire first page.. took me forever to scroll haha.
Sorry for being lazy.


