difference between a Cwest bumper and a knockoff?
#76
Originally Posted by mifesto
anyone who claims the design of the bumper itself reduced their laptime really have to wake up and smell the coffee....
im not saying its for show, i DO believe in cwest but hey lets get real. what you are mainly feeling is the about 20 lbs of weight removed from the best place possible on the evo (the front!!!).. thats why the RS doesnt have HID's, it saves alot. so basically your evo is getting closer to neutral handling and improving your laptime. ok signin off.
im not saying its for show, i DO believe in cwest but hey lets get real. what you are mainly feeling is the about 20 lbs of weight removed from the best place possible on the evo (the front!!!).. thats why the RS doesnt have HID's, it saves alot. so basically your evo is getting closer to neutral handling and improving your laptime. ok signin off.
LancerEvo Magazine that I have states that switching to stock Evo8 bumper to a Stillway bumper only saves 1.0kg. That's about 2.2lbs. Oh and they list the stock bumper weight as 7.9kg, or about 17+lbs.
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Originally Posted by roo@bpauto
YOUR bumper? Counterfeit money there is no different. Fake rolex there is no different. I don't care how many of your fakie fakie bumpers you've sold, you stole a design that does not belong to you and are making profit from it and now you are touting it as and accomplishment.
so the greed yes the greed
so the greed yes the greed
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Originally Posted by GDB
TWENTY POUNDS for a bumper change?? If you take off the entire stock bumper, I doubt it weighs 20lbs in the first place!
LancerEvo Magazine that I have states that switching to stock Evo8 bumper to a Stillway bumper only saves 1.0kg. That's about 2.2lbs. Oh and they list the stock bumper weight as 7.9kg, or about 17+lbs.
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LancerEvo Magazine that I have states that switching to stock Evo8 bumper to a Stillway bumper only saves 1.0kg. That's about 2.2lbs. Oh and they list the stock bumper weight as 7.9kg, or about 17+lbs.
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#79
Originally Posted by mifesto
i can tell from your post you havent really done much research about these JDM bumpers.... mitsu had to add a 5mph crash bar (front and rear) to the USDM evos. i weighted this at 13 lbs on my scale but been reported up to 15 (who knows). i have not weighed the bumpers itself because it was too cumbersome but i did feel a noticable weight difference which tells me its roughly 3-5 lb difference. now wither its 20 or 18 lbs, it will make a very noticable difference in your handling, not downforce
Do you take your car to the track? Look I'm not trying to flame/pick a fight with you. Anyway, I do, and my track has quite a few high speed sections, speeds 90mph and up.
Alright I admit I can't comment on the comments made by those who switch from USDM to JDM; and you're right I know nothing about USDM because I have JDM bumper from day one.
EDIT: Oh by the way I have tried "removing" about 120lbs of weight, by driving alone instead of having a passenger, hehe.. Honestly the car does 'feel' better, but how much it contributes to real lap time saving I don't know because I keep improving my lap times naturally as I get more and more familiar with the track.
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Originally Posted by PnutButterWolf
yeah i noticed too. However i just don't like his cocky attitude. especially from a vendor.. that attitude needs some adjustment for sure.
Originally Posted by hueman
not really, i've gotten the same impression from his past posts.
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ok guys let me know what you think. I think I spot the difference between the 2 bumpers. The knock off one has a bigger hole for the intercooler, its wider and taller if you look carefully where it line up with the headlights. Also the edges are sharper on the real one, especially right below the bottom canard where the groove is deeper.
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Originally Posted by GDB
The tests done by C-West are from stock JDM bumper, to aftermarket bumper. Wind tunnel tested too. Of course it's up to the reader whether or not it is believable, but I spoke to an aeroplane engineer and he said those test results indicate that it SHOULD help in the high sweepers.
Do you take your car to the track? Look I'm not trying to flame/pick a fight with you. Anyway, I do, and my track has quite a few high speed sections, speeds 90mph and up.
Alright I admit I can't comment on the comments made by those who switch from USDM to JDM; and you're right I know nothing about USDM because I have JDM bumper from day one.
EDIT: Oh by the way I have tried "removing" about 120lbs of weight, by driving alone instead of having a passenger, hehe.. Honestly the car does 'feel' better, but how much it contributes to real lap time saving I don't know because I keep improving my lap times naturally as I get more and more familiar with the track.
Do you take your car to the track? Look I'm not trying to flame/pick a fight with you. Anyway, I do, and my track has quite a few high speed sections, speeds 90mph and up.
Alright I admit I can't comment on the comments made by those who switch from USDM to JDM; and you're right I know nothing about USDM because I have JDM bumper from day one.
EDIT: Oh by the way I have tried "removing" about 120lbs of weight, by driving alone instead of having a passenger, hehe.. Honestly the car does 'feel' better, but how much it contributes to real lap time saving I don't know because I keep improving my lap times naturally as I get more and more familiar with the track.
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Originally Posted by roo@bpauto
chill with the hate. there used to be other employees here using my sn and while i'm not sure what other "past posts" you are referring to, the only negative vibes would be directed towards counterfeit/replica/knockoff/.etc. products.
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Originally Posted by roo@bpauto
I think you are reading far too much into my very short post. You were claiming the Valdi Sport bumper is the T&S bumper.....it's not. People pointed it out to you and you still refused to admit your mistake. Hence the roll of the eyes and post of the actual manufacturer. It wasn't intended to be a cocky attitude, just a correction.
#89
Glad somebody finally posted side-by-side pics of the two bumpers. For the $$ difference, I would definitely get the knock-off; I agree with the point above that if you're gonna have to replace a bumper, which would hurt less?
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Originally Posted by ArchieBabes
Don't forget about the Varis Full Front Bumper
Only two kits in the USA so far.
Only two kits in the USA so far.
make that 4 kits, my friend has one, and i just bought everything varis sells..