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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Ova2onE
WOW!.... Learning helps.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereotype

I can't say that websites are the best resources, but I'm pretty sure you can hit a local library and find out what stereotype falls into. "knowing is half the battle!"
That article cites nothing. The first step to research is obtaining verifiable facts. Wikipedia is hardly peer-reviewed.

I know where you're coming from, but learning the wrong thing means that you lost the first half of the battle. Besides, I'm not sure that any number of research journals on the subject could classify stereotyping in the lighthearted sense that it's been used on this forum.
Old Jul 14, 2007 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Ova2onE
Funny thing is, I got rich white kids who implements this style around my place. Also the person is doing what we call stereotyping, which is a type of racism and discrimination. however you look at its a pitiful person being unknowledged, ignorant person.
Stereotyping a group of people and being not fully knowledgeable about a certain race/nationality/ethnic group does not automatically make you racist. It just means that you are ignorant. Ignorance just means that you do not know.

When you combine your ignorance with hate and malicious bias towards a specific people, then you are a racist. I can also know everything about all groups of people, but I can still hate a specific race or all races, so being not ignorant can still have someone to be a racist.

It is only racist when there is hate involved.
Old Jul 14, 2007 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by kensuke
I'm more interested in the mathematical evidence for these figures than statistical evidence supporting racial stereotypes. I remember studying rotational kinematics, and raw conversion factors like this never appeared. Seems like an old husbands tale to me.
Rotational inertia is far from being considered old husbands (wifes) tale. If you add more mass to a rotating object the rotational inertia increases (=rotational kinetic energy increases). Obviously it also matters where the mass is added. The further away the mass is placed such as a 20'' rim as opposed to 18'' rim the more increase in rotational inertia you will see. Now the figures I threw were rough estimates, but they are within the ball park. Hell I should know with a degree in Physics and minor in Mathematics.
Old Jul 14, 2007 | 11:15 PM
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doesnt change the fact that they are crap. he hasn't posted in a while about 80 posts ago. LOL he must feel stupid getting laughed at so badly
Old Jul 14, 2007 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon

Perceived realities are every bit as much real as ones proven by fact. It is not possible to phsycially determine if a certain racial group prefers these types of rims just as it is not possible to determine if the majority of Keds owners are white. The point is that it's commonly accepted as fact based off the overhwelming number of occurences, and it doesn't matter if one person doesn't participate in the stereotypical behavior.
So basically doesn't what you said above in this post completely goes against what you said earlier about "it being true"? I mean you just said it yourself you can't prove whether its true or not...so how did you come to that fantastic conclusion that you did a few posts ago?

Anyway as with the other guy, lets agree to disagree huh .
Old Jul 14, 2007 | 11:16 PM
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I wonder if he actually thought anyone would like them... did he expect us to start cheering... like he thought of doing 20's first or something? There is a reason that we didn't do that to our cars..
Old Jul 14, 2007 | 11:18 PM
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i keep reading waiting for the april fools on these rims.... what in the living hell were you thinking putting these on your car ? Send them back, get your money, and get 2 sets of volks lol
Old Jul 14, 2007 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Ova2onE
WOW!.... Learning helps.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereotype

I can't say that websites are the best resources, but I'm pretty sure you can hit a local library and find out what stereotype falls into. "knowing is half the battle!"
They may be positive or negative, but most choose to take it in a negative light

Some people consider all stereotypes to be negative
Old Jul 14, 2007 | 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by codgi
So basically doesn't what you said above in this post completely goes against what you said earlier about "it being true"? I mean you just said it yourself you can't prove whether its true or not...so how did you come to that fantastic conclusion that you did a few posts ago?

Anyway as with the other guy, lets agree to disagree huh .
Again, missing the point. It's obvious it's true, whether you only believe it with hard facts or not. The perceived reality is powerful enough. Again, unless you have facts to DISPROVE, then you cannot question me. I am merely stating what is commonly known to society as fact, whether proven or not.
Old Jul 14, 2007 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 34Turbo
Rotational inertia is far from being considered old husbands (wifes) tale. If you add more mass to a rotating object the rotational inertia increases (=rotational kinetic energy increases). Obviously it also matters where the mass is added. The further away the mass is placed such as a 20'' rim as opposed to 18'' rim the more increase in rotational inertia you will see. Now the figures I threw were rough estimates, but they are within the ball park. Hell I should know with a degree in Physics and minor in Mathematics.
No offense intended by my previous words, I was referring to the idea of a linear relationship modeling performance loss in a rotating system. I'm an applied math and electrical engineering double major, so I've taken my fair share of math and physics as well . I just thought it was funny how everyone seemed to be taking the figures as gospel.
Old Jul 14, 2007 | 11:20 PM
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$4000 grand for those POS wheels? you could have done so much better with other wheels and so much more......Your loss.

The fact that we are already on the 5th page (in 1 day) of negative feedback on your decision should mean something to you....if you even know what kind of car you bought.

You do realize you bought an Evo right?
Old Jul 14, 2007 | 11:22 PM
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I'm with Clay on this one. Statistically more caucasians buy hip-hop/r&b albums then african americans, however, if you walk up to anyone and ask them what culture they would pair hip-hop with you would get the same answer in any country. Again, technically more caucasians have incorporated hiphop/r&b into their cultures but is sterotypically considered an african american past time.
Old Jul 14, 2007 | 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverShadow03
$4000 grand for those POS wheels? you could have done so much better with other wheels and so much more......Your loss.

The fact that we are already on the 5th page (in 1 day) of negative feedback on your decision should mean something to you....if you even know what kind of car you bought.

You do realize you bought an Evo right?
Only 3 - 4 hours old I believe.. Reload the page it jumps 2 - 3 posts everytime!
Old Jul 14, 2007 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Vigo
Stereotyping a group of people and being not fully knowledgeable about a certain race/nationality/ethnic group does not automatically make you racist. It just means that you are ignorant. Ignorance just means that you do not know.

When you combine your ignorance with hate and malicious bias towards a specific people, then you are a racist. I can also know everything about all groups of people, but I can still hate a specific race or all races, so being not ignorant can still have someone to be a racist.

It is only racist when there is hate involved.


I agree with your argument here....wait... I'm done arguing
Old Jul 14, 2007 | 11:24 PM
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Also, saying "more" is a misnomer, because "more" typically means a higher number, whereas the more important measurement would be percentage. 20% of 2 billion is a lot more than 50% of 500 million.



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