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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 05:16 PM
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Yeah, its a QM twin. The exedy triples are just too heavy.
Pardon my ignorance, but when you say the clutch is too heavy what are you referring to? Physical weight? Pedal feel?
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by sEvoIXnTurboS2k
Pardon my ignorance, but when you say the clutch is too heavy what are you referring to? Physical weight? Pedal feel?
the pedal.
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by sEvoIXnTurboS2k
Pardon my ignorance, but when you say the clutch is too heavy what are you referring to? Physical weight? Pedal feel?
I think he may mean physical weight..and yes the triple is much heavier..

Tilton = 16lbs $5,000 Clutch INCLUDES FLY WHEEL WEIGHT

Qm = 18.2lbs $1,200 Clutch INCLUDES FLY WHEEL WEIGHT

Prob the 2 lightest clutches on the market..

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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by OneCrzyEvo21
I think he may mean physical weight..and yes the triple is much heavier..

Tilton = 16lbs $5,000 Clutch

Qm = 18.2lbs $1,200 Clutch

Prob the 2 lightest clutches on the market..
I do not think the overall weight of a clutch is much of an issue. In terms of physical weight it is the the flywheel I believe you would be concerned with. The lighter the flywheel the quicker your acceleration, but that doesn't mean you have an optimal setup because deceleration can then be an issue.

I had an Exedy Hyper Single on a Civic I had years back. Pedal was pretty darn firm and that was on a single. I don't think the effect is three-fold with a triple, but I am sure it is pretty darn firm. This can be a pain in the a$$ for a daily driven Evo, but for one used mostly for the track it isn't a big deal.
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by sEvoIXnTurboS2k
I do not think the overall weight of a clutch is much of an issue. In terms of physical weight it is the the flywheel I believe you would be concerned with. The lighter the flywheel the quicker your acceleration, but that doesn't mean you have an optimal setup because deceleration can then be an issue.

I had an Exedy Hyper Single on a Civic I had years back. Pedal was pretty darn firm and that was on a single. I don't think the effect is three-fold with a triple, but I am sure it is pretty darn firm. This can be a pain in the a$$ for a daily driven Evo, but for one used mostly for the track it isn't a big deal.
Yah i get what your saying, for Drag racing most ppl prefer a heavier flywheel due to not loosing some many Rpm between shifts...However, with NLfS (no lift shift) these days, ill take the lightweight flywheel all day..Either way, Qm IMO is a much better bargain than and Exedy Triple..
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 05:54 PM
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by OneCrzyEvo21
I think he may mean physical weight..and yes the triple is much heavier..

Tilton = 16lbs $5,000 Clutch INCLUDES FLY WHEEL WEIGHT

Qm = 18.2lbs $1,200 Clutch INCLUDES FLY WHEEL WEIGHT

Prob the 2 lightest clutches on the market..
Yeah, the physical weight is what I was talking about. The exedy triple is double the weight of the QM IIRC or therabouts. The QM also shifts a lot smoother then the exedy twins and triples.
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 06:55 PM
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Yeah, the physical weight is what I was talking about. The exedy triple is double the weight of the QM IIRC or therabouts. The QM also shifts a lot smoother then the exedy twins and triples.
Around 35lbs for the Exedy Triple?

When it comes to weight reduction I don't recall seeing many people reference the overall weight of a clutch...merely the flywheel itself.

There must be something good about the Exedy triple though because shops like BR, AWDMotorsports, etc. run it on their cars. To each is own obviously!
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 07:32 PM
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I want to say that the exedy triple is about 12lbs heavier then the QM, so about 66% to be somewhat accurate. A lot of people prefer the exedy triple for its weight actualy, one of the reasons that I don't. A heavier clutch will be easier to start out when on an incline vs a lighter clutch such as the QM, but there are also negatives. My main reason for picking the QM is its better shifting at higher RPMs and its cheaper rebuild costs.
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by BenJ
Yeah, the physical weight is what I was talking about. The exedy triple is double the weight of the QM IIRC or therabouts. The QM also shifts a lot smoother then the exedy twins and triples.
Originally Posted by BenJ
I want to say that the exedy triple is about 12lbs heavier then the QM, so about 66% to be somewhat accurate. A lot of people prefer the exedy triple for its weight actualy, one of the reasons that I don't. A heavier clutch will be easier to start out when on an incline vs a lighter clutch such as the QM, but there are also negatives. My main reason for picking the QM is its better shifting at higher RPMs and its cheaper rebuild costs.
I agree, I sold my triple for the same reasons. I looked into buying the "push" type exedy but that was waaay too much money impo.

Do you have the "newer" QM twin or the older version?
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 07:53 AM
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I have the older version...no telling when the new one will be out.
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by BenJ
I have the older version...no telling when the new one will be out.
I was hoping it was out already...
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 08:45 AM
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I was hoping it was out already...
The old ones still work awesome, just need to have a shop take off .125" (I will have to double check the amount) of material from the disc hubs. This will give you over 20k of usage.
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by BenJ
The old ones still work awesome, just need to have a shop take off .125" (I will have to double check the amount) of material from the disc hubs. This will give you over 20k of usage.
orly? Let me know when you confirm the amount
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 09:42 AM
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https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...age-usage.html
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orly? Let me know when you confirm the amount
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