View Poll Results: Alignment and tire wear
Greater then 20K -- Had alignment checked/corrected
1
1.15%
Greater then 20K -- No check
7
8.05%
10K - 20K -- Had alignment checked/corrected
13
14.94%
10K - 20K -- No check
31
35.63%
Less than 10K -- Had alignment checked/corrected
16
18.39%
Less than 10K -- No check
19
21.84%
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Tire Wear and Alignment (Advans)
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I managed somewhere between 15K and 18K (if I remember right) on my Advans before needing to replace them. I had the car re-aligned about 2 weeks after taking delivery. The tires saw quite a bit of highway use, but they did see 8 (?) track days, too. I did rotate the tires every 3500 miles.
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From: MidTN
After about 8K and two rotations, my Advans still have about a season of wear left on them (with the factory alignment).
Unfortunately, one has a sheet metal screw through it.
Don't sweat longevity on the east coast, until they decide to have paved roads again.
Based on the handling, the delivered setup was pretty good. On the other hand, the dealer (Herb Connolly) put several days of "prep" into the car before delivery, so whether it was the factory or the dealer who got it right, ...
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"End Road Work" -- sounds like a campaign slogan.
Unfortunately, one has a sheet metal screw through it.
Don't sweat longevity on the east coast, until they decide to have paved roads again.
Based on the handling, the delivered setup was pretty good. On the other hand, the dealer (Herb Connolly) put several days of "prep" into the car before delivery, so whether it was the factory or the dealer who got it right, ...
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"End Road Work" -- sounds like a campaign slogan.
Originally Posted by sandm
Have to offer my $.02 on mitsu service and advans. I purchased my evo with 836 miles from a guy that had owned it a year. at 5000 miles, the dealer told me that the tires were shot on the front when I had my oil changed. speced out at 2/1000 on the front all the way across and 7.5/1000 on the rears. they told me that it was due to my not rotating it every 1500 miles. this came from the service advisor. said the advans are super soft racing tires(duh) but that I needed to rotate that often. I cried bull**** on that. manual states something like 5-7000 miles. they agreed to look at the alignment. took it back 2 weeks later for an alignment and it was way off. talking to the mechanic who is very familiar with mitsu products, he stated that his opinion was that the alignment, specifically the camber had been off a ton since the car was new, and that explained the quick wear.(our mitsu dealer here is also the subie dealer, so they see all the hot rods in town) had a sit-down with the service manager and 2 weeks later, I had 2 new advans for the front courtesy of mitsubishi. I know that I should have all 4 new, but I will never put advans on the car again (too $) so to get 2 new ones with the rears barely worn, should be good to 15k or so. plan on rotating every 2nd. oil change, or about 5k. not all mitsu dealers are bad to deal with, although it took some pushing to get the tires replaced. some of the threads here mention to get to know your advisor/manager well, and that is very good advice. they have been consulted on every upgrade I have done to ensure that the warranty stays as intact as I can keep it.
Thats pretty amazing considering you are the second owner of the car. I guess Mitusbishi gets it right sometimes.
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From: Riverview, FL
I have about 12500 miles on my stock Advans, and they are wearing okay, except the outside tread on my driver's-side front is worn a lot more than the others...I figure it's just all that hard cornering...I take a lot of HARD rights and exit ramps driving to and from work every day, which would put most of the wear right where it is, on the outside of the left front tire. I guess I should rotate them, eh??? 
Originally Posted by NOVA EVO
I have about 12500 miles on my stock Advans, and they are wearing okay, except the outside tread on my driver's-side front is worn a lot more than the others...I figure it's just all that hard cornering...I take a lot of HARD rights and exit ramps driving to and from work every day, which would put most of the wear right where it is, on the outside of the left front tire. I guess I should rotate them, eh???
if you would have had less than 12,500 miles, the warranty will cover it. My buddies driver outside tire edge was worn beyond belief....they replaced it.
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Joined: Jul 2004
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From: North Shore MA
I had inside wear on the fronts when I noticed at 7k and had the dealer align under warranty, they said all 4 wheels were off, even though my rears were wearing "fine".
I then rotated the fronts to rears and I will see if the new alignment corrects the front inside wear issue. I did not even bother asking them about new tires, knowing the $hit storm that would develop. I would recommend ANY Evo owner have their alignment checked under warranty.
I then rotated the fronts to rears and I will see if the new alignment corrects the front inside wear issue. I did not even bother asking them about new tires, knowing the $hit storm that would develop. I would recommend ANY Evo owner have their alignment checked under warranty.
The tire wear on my '03 Evo advans(50% left) were still ok @12k miles before i traded it in. No alignment made. I think tire wear depends on how you drive, road condition and weather.
I bought my car from some small dealer with a hair over 13K on the clock. At that time it had a set of fairly worn SCCA approved Falken Azenis. The one with the crazy tread pattern. Anyway, the previous owner must of been one crappy driver coz almost 2 weeks down the road, some lady pulled me over to tell me that one of my tires was wobbly... So I had it checked over at discount tire and lord behold, the rim was slightly off center. It had a mild road rash on it but I didn't think it looked like the kind of damage that would be caused by a spinout or something like that... Anyway, after a horror story and a half trying to get the MB Motoring Weapon from DT, I ended up buying a new stock set of rims with Advans from another board member. The advans still have about 50% tread left or 9K miles of use according to previous owner of the rims. Anyway, all in all, including the 9K of use and the miles I've racked up, 12 ~13K miles and they still have plenty of tread. Insides are still okay the last time I checked. Right now I'm running ~35psi Front, and 32~34psi Rear and haven't had the alignment checked since I bought the EVO...
I think everyone needs to pay attention to 'marksae' here. For all you people with the excessive inside tread wear, you do not have to suffer with this problem. As a Z car owner, I am an unfortunate EXPERT on this subject. Every Z owner suffers with this problem, and its MUCH more severe than I've seen on any stock EVO.
After killing several sets of tires, I was convinced that the solution was to just live without some of that negative camber we all love for the twisties. This is absolutely the wrong thing to do. I consulted a very smart friend of mine (author, racer, engineer, etc.) who recommended the following: maximize your negative camber, since it doesn't affect the tire wear much at all anyway. Then, SET YOUR TOE TO ZERO. The cause of the tire wear is the negative camber in conjunction with toe in or toe out. It causes the inner tread to scrape across the pavement and destroy your tires. I had an expensive ($265) performance alignment done on my Z, and the technician agreed with the plan 100%. We actually made my camber MORE negative at that time (-2.5 front, -1.8 rear), along with zeroing the toe. Results? The problem is completely gone. The tires are wearing evenly for the first time ever since I've owned it (8 years).
Keep in mind that the Mitsu spec for the EVO do allow for some toe (front: -.08 to +.08, rear: -.08 to +.39). If you get your EVO aligned, you might want to sweet talk the tech into doing it your way, instead of just the stock specs.
Rob
After killing several sets of tires, I was convinced that the solution was to just live without some of that negative camber we all love for the twisties. This is absolutely the wrong thing to do. I consulted a very smart friend of mine (author, racer, engineer, etc.) who recommended the following: maximize your negative camber, since it doesn't affect the tire wear much at all anyway. Then, SET YOUR TOE TO ZERO. The cause of the tire wear is the negative camber in conjunction with toe in or toe out. It causes the inner tread to scrape across the pavement and destroy your tires. I had an expensive ($265) performance alignment done on my Z, and the technician agreed with the plan 100%. We actually made my camber MORE negative at that time (-2.5 front, -1.8 rear), along with zeroing the toe. Results? The problem is completely gone. The tires are wearing evenly for the first time ever since I've owned it (8 years).
Keep in mind that the Mitsu spec for the EVO do allow for some toe (front: -.08 to +.08, rear: -.08 to +.39). If you get your EVO aligned, you might want to sweet talk the tech into doing it your way, instead of just the stock specs.
Rob
I changed my oil last night and was absolutely shocked at the inside tire wear ont he front tires. I couldn't beleive it- there was almost NO tread left in the inside 2 inches. But every other part of the tire looks just fine.
Is this normal? I only have 4,500 miles on the car.
Is this normal? I only have 4,500 miles on the car.
Originally Posted by smp3000
I changed my oil last night and was absolutely shocked at the inside tire wear ont he front tires. I couldn't beleive it- there was almost NO tread left in the inside 2 inches. But every other part of the tire looks just fine.
Is this normal? I only have 4,500 miles on the car.
Is this normal? I only have 4,500 miles on the car.
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From: Riverview, FL
Originally Posted by marksae
Sounds like you got too much toe out. Better get your car realigned before you replace your tires or new set will be wearing out just as fast.