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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 08:36 PM
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Talking Hotchkis settling

Ive noticed since my install some setteling. Kinda liked the fresh look at time of install, but i was expecting some sag as ive had springs on my last car. The thing thats bothering me is that the camber is out of wack,ive noticed on the pasangerside the car is a bit lower and the neg camber has taken effect! When i left the alignment shop i was at stock settings( no neg camber) but now since the car is lower and the camber is now back in the neg, is there still room to at least come close to a 0.0 camber like stock... im guessing the reason the car is lower on the pass side is due to the engine weight more towards pass side!

Im thinking a damper kit will be my next mod....springs look good but you can tell a springed car from a full set up...Im also more in favor of the uniform look of the no neg camer thing.. i hate the bowed out look, flame if you like but much prefer thoughtfull insight fellas!!
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 08:16 AM
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I guess the best and easiest way to get a definitive answer is to grab a tape measure and take a reading from the bottom of the fenderwell to the ground. There should be some room to get it back to where you want it in the front but the rear may be a whole other animal......
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by russjnco
I guess the best and easiest way to get a definitive answer is to grab a tape measure and take a reading from the bottom of the fenderwell to the ground. There should be some room to get it back to where you want it in the front but the rear may be a whole other animal......
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 08:31 AM
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Ride height wise you really can't, I should of clarified.....you should be able to get the camber back to where you want it in front. My bad, I'm still not awake yet!
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 08:34 AM
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Ride height wise you really can't, I should of clarified.....you should be able to get the camber back to where you want it in front. My bad, I'm still not awake yet!
thanks bro, thats what i wanted to hear!
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 02:10 PM
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not trying to be a smart ***, but was your installation correct? When I did my springs I forgot to align the coil up correctly. Good luck.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by EVOla_VIRUS
not trying to be a smart ***, but was your installation correct? When I did my springs I forgot to align the coil up correctly. Good luck.
yes, it was....springs tend to settle...just woundering why after 50 miles the passanger side only so far!!! im thinking the strut might have went bad...would this cause the car to be lower on the side with bad strut.....the drivers side has not settled yet....but then again i was told 2500 miles befor settling!! who knows....srings are the cheap way out...im not in a civic anymore!@
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 08:05 PM
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driver side in first photo...only 75 miles since install!!

scroll yer mouse pointer in the gaps to get idea

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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 08:15 PM
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driver side in first photo...only 75 miles since install!!
Notice the passanger side is lower and the camber went back in the negative..
I thought it was a bit strange..concidering im 225 and my big as would cause it to settle more on the drivers side!!...

My plans are to drive 1500 miles more, see if they will even out, providing i can get stock camber after the settling is done.. If its still uneven on the the fronts after that i have no choice but to ditch them....Im also planning to check the struts after the 1500 to make sure their not the week link with inconsistancy in the drop levels on both sides. the pixture ive provided show a bit of what im trying to explain, but we all know in person will be a better visual!...

the install was very clean, reason i know is cuz i was practicly up the guys *** that did the work...Ive used Network alignment for a long time as do most with lowerd cars in Phoenix!

lets see some close ups of these on some cars, i know ive seen a few on here but i want to see more....

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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 08:39 PM
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BTW, your picture links aren't working but there could be a couple of things working here. One, if the installer used an impact wrench to change out the top nut during the spring change, that could of damaged the strut (as per what it says in the manual). Which would cause it to go bad but more than likely it would be leaking oil and making noise or possibly not. Second, if that top nut was not torqued properly then that would cause a height differential. Third, there could be a defect in the springs where one is longer than the other. Just some things to through out there.......
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 08:45 PM
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BTW, your picture links aren't working but there could be a couple of things working here. One, if the installer used an impact wrench to change out the top nut during the spring change, that could of damaged the strut (as per what it says in the manual). Which would cause it to go bad but more than likely it would be leaking oil and making noise or possibly not. Second, if that top nut was not torqued properly then that would cause a height differential. Third, there could be a defect in the springs where one is longer than the other. Just some things to through out there.......
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 09:03 PM
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Did you take a measurement from the ground to the top of the arch of the wheel well? I'd be curious to know what that is. With an 1 1/2" drop that measurement should be 25 1/2". Maybe it's just the pictures but the height doesn't look like it's off by much but then again it could be the photos. The camber should be an easy fix though, the top eccentric bolt probably moved just a touch.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by russjnco
Did you take a measurement from the ground to the top of the arch of the wheel well? I'd be curious to know what that is. With an 1 1/2" drop that measurement should be 25 1/2". Maybe it's just the pictures but the height doesn't look like it's off by much but then again it could be the photos. The camber should be an easy fix though, the top eccentric bolt probably moved just a touch.
thnsk for the encouraging words let me go get the tape out
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by russjnco
Did you take a measurement from the ground to the top of the arch of the wheel well? I'd be curious to know what that is. With an 1 1/2" drop that measurement should be 25 1/2". Maybe it's just the pictures but the height doesn't look like it's off by much but then again it could be the photos. The camber should be an easy fix though, the top eccentric bolt probably moved just a touch.
ok...the passanger reads 25.5 on the money...however the drivers side is a hair under 26...so theres room for more drop....is the camber suppose to go in the neg in the settling process..
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 06:20 AM
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I would say that there's something wrong with the left side spring, either it hasn't set in properly or it's not set right. The right side is definitely where it should be so start looking left. As the car drops you will develop more negative camber and you will also get more toe-in, once you get this figured get an alignment fairly quickly but since you're not running the stock advans you would have a little more time than most.
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