thanks.

some specs will be great and some comparison if possible and real life experience, pros and cons.

all i know is that the tein ones are cheaper than cusco.

 

also might want to throw works into the mix too. I'm very interested in hearing some thoughts from those with the parts installed.

 

I have the Works plates. Straightforward install and they have different collars available for the stock struts and Ohlins coilovers. If it would just stop raining or snowing on track days I could see what -2.5 camber up front really feels like. It seemed better on a cold, wet Mid-Ohio, especially in the keyhole, but I had also just learned how to handle that dip right before the apex.

Dave

 

I have seen the works and the look very similar to those on the Tein RA's. Same color too. I haven't had a problem with them. No noise either.

 

I'm using the Cusco plate with the stock struts, I have -3.0 camber.

 

I have the cusco plates on ohlins road and track coilovers. They have been on the car for almost a year now. I hate the cusco plates.

Can't get much camber adjustment out of them. With the stock adjusters at max positive camber (for tire clearance) I can barely get -2.1 degrees with out hacking the plates to offer a lareger adjustment range. The spherical bearing bind causing creaking and twisting of the inserts (really bad for seals in the coilovers)

At this point I am problably going a set of Ground control camber plates. These are the plates I would have gone with in the first place if they had been available.

I would definately recommend that you pass on the cusco plates. If the tiens are anything like cusco, I would pass on those as well.

 

chrisw...aren't the GC plates supposed to have caster adjustment too? I thought Navid mentioned something about that in the SM Update thread...

 

yes they do. I don't know exactly how much caster adjustment we get, but by looking at Navid's car carve the cones, it's pretty significant.

GC plates also incorporate a thrust bearing to prevent the binding issues that I complained about, something that no other camber plate (mentioned in this thread) has.

 

so i guess nobody has the Tein one...

I want something at least -3 degree up front.

 

so i guess nobody has the Tein one...

I want something at least -3 degree up front...

ok, i guess I'll be guinea pig for the tein.

how much are the works?

 

From the pictures I have seen, teins look almost the same as cusco.

 

The Tein plates can get you there...mine will hit -3.2 or so on my RA's. Unfortunately I have another problem which prohibits use of more the -2.25.

The Teins do not incorporate any type of thrust bearing to allow rotation of the spring in the seat. In fact you can hear the springs shifting on occasion.

 

lets keep in mind though that chris's issue in terms of adjustment stems in large amounts due to the fact that he is standing the tire to positive camber with the factory adjustment, then using the camber plate to dial in negative camber. Problem is, if you want to use a super wide tire up front, this is just one of things you need to do.

The GC's look interesting as well, though have not used them

 

That's a very good point.

However, I can fix this by switching to a 8" spring in front instead of the 10" spring I have now. This will give me the clearance I need to run the factory adjustment at max negative camber.

But at this point I feel like I have reached the safe limit of the cusco plates. I don't know if the cusco units can handle the higher spring rates that I want to use. From the dealers that I have talked to (here in the SF bay area) they don't recommend going much higher than what I already run.

Maybe you can answer this, can I safely run more than a 500lbs spring with the cusco plates?

I feel like I am stuck with my suspension setup the way it is until I get better camber plates.

 

I dont see what one has to do with the other frankly - the spring rate and camber plate operate independant of one another - one does not affect the other.

As for changing the spring length, you have to check with your coilover manufacturer on this one - if the coilovers are dual height adjustable, I don't see a problem. If not, you might end up altering the stroke of the shock itself.

As for handling the higher springs, I cannot fathom how they couldn't - example: there are certain Cusco applications that come with 10 kg/mm springs (559 lbs) as stock, and they work just fine