Staggered Wheels
FWIW, Porsche uses a staggered setup on the 911 C4 and 911 Turbo which are both AWD, but the Gallardo that someone mentioned earlier is RWD, Murcielago is AWD. Skyline uses a staggered setup. It's actually not uncommon.
Originally Posted by dadriva
I suppose I would say your 03 Evo isn't wrecked....it is operationally challenged 
(bummer by the way, I'll bet you miss it)
(bummer by the way, I'll bet you miss it)
Originally Posted by AWDrift07
Wow that's a very optimistic interpretation! I may have failed to read between the lines on his post but most people would agree that when he said "staggering won't make a difference in AWD systems" what he really meant was that staggering won't make a difference in AWD systems. Maybe i'm just taking things too literally but it was pretty cut and dry to me. 
When you lose do you call it not winning?
When you lose do you call it not winning?
Originally Posted by en1gma19
FWIW, Porsche uses a staggered setup on the 911 C4 and 911 Turbo which are both AWD, but the Gallardo that someone mentioned earlier is RWD, Murcielago is AWD. Skyline uses a staggered setup. It's actually not uncommon.
if you go back to Sept 02 (vol 14, no. 9) of Sport Compact Car, the Bozz Speed EVO VI has Volk SE37K's 17X9.5 (fronts) & 17x8.5 (rears) using 255/40zr17 rubber all around. this was at the suggestion of Rays Engineering to square off the front tire sidewall and "round" the rear side wall. this set-up offered higher grip up front and more breakaway from the rear.
Originally Posted by AWDrift07
Wow that's a very optimistic interpretation!
that the stager has nothing to do with awd problems and only diameter is the real issue here.
but this is talking about awd diff issues not handling.
Last edited by smack_evo; Sep 10, 2005 at 02:41 PM.
it all depends on the design of the awd system. EVOs drivetrain is more FWD biased (I think its 60/40 torque split but i can be wrong here.), so a lot of JDM tuners use wider width up front than rear. Just like what EVO Speedking quoted, ".... to square off the front tire sidewall and "round" the rear side wall. this set-up offered higher grip up front and more breakaway from the rear."
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Originally Posted by go_evo_go
so would the rear wheel staggered look be more for show or should you just stay away from it all together.(rear wheel)
Really it's all just going to come down to driving style and course layout. Most of those Japanese tracks are very small and very tight, a simple staggering of the wheels is going to give you a small contact patch in the rear with less of a shoulder to roll over onto, basically you're going to have less grip in the rear and allow the car to rotate. It's a lot easier and simpler than proper suspension tuning and probably for a lot of the guys in Japan, it's a final option when everything else fails.
Unless you're an autocrosser who has exhausted their suspension tuning options and is still having trouble pushing in the tight stuff, I don't see any reason to go staggered....well unless you're mAd tYtE jDm d0rIfTo kInG.
Unless you're an autocrosser who has exhausted their suspension tuning options and is still having trouble pushing in the tight stuff, I don't see any reason to go staggered....well unless you're mAd tYtE jDm d0rIfTo kInG.
Originally Posted by dadriva
I just put a set of Work wheels on my rig that give a staggered appearance. They are same size and offset front and rear. 18x8.5 +29 but have a "type R" front disk and "type O" rear disk. This gives a nice dish in the rear. I have pics but cannot figure out how to resize and post on here. If someone would like to host them That would be cool.