Mullerized vs Robispec
Not true, a Muellerized buddy club setup has a much better ride quality on the street than stock. The springs feeling heavier which you can feel in the smaller bumps, but feels softer over larger bumps and impacts and eats them much better than stock. The damping is completely controlled with very little ride chop. This was also a track tuned setup. There are options for even more comfortable tunes... ask Mueller and get a ride in a Mueller setup.
I've been in 2 muellerized setups, and driven a 3rd, how many have you been in?
I've been in 2 muellerized setups, and driven a 3rd, how many have you been in?
Originally Posted by scorke
If you think stock is a bone crusher, I'd say both of these two guys suggested setups will be far too hardcore for you.
Scorke
Scorke
do a search and read reviews on Muellerized set ups. If you have the cash and then do it right and get coilovers. Given they may be too much for what you plan on doing.
Anyway, even on the street i love the set up. The car is extremely well balanced and the weight transfer is perfect. You won't regret a Muellerized set up. The guy knows his sh*t!
btw - the ride quality is better than stock and the drop is perfect
Anyway, even on the street i love the set up. The car is extremely well balanced and the weight transfer is perfect. You won't regret a Muellerized set up. The guy knows his sh*t!
btw - the ride quality is better than stock and the drop is perfect
if it was me I'd save up $500 more and get the double adjustable KW's. They seem to be an incredible value for the price. No personal experience with them though.
there are different spring rates available just for a little more $$ on top off that. Softer, etc...
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there are different spring rates available just for a little more $$ on top off that. Softer, etc...
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Thanks to all......Yes, I am aware of the fact that you can do both improve ride quality and performance over stock....Mits definitely missed the setup on the 03. It's not that I can't deal with a stiff car....when compression and rebound is correct the wheels stay on the ground. I will wait a paycheck and speak with both parties and see how it goes.....
I am going with the Muellerized buddy club setup. Just waiting for John to get more in stock. I also added the Quaife front LSD from RRE, and it completely transformed the car. If you have an 03 get teh Quaife, it will be the best $ you ever spent.
Now I am just sitting back impatiently
waiting for my coilovers to see how the car will respond w/ a suspension.
Now I am just sitting back impatiently
waiting for my coilovers to see how the car will respond w/ a suspension.
Originally Posted by xepyt
I have a question,
On track have you ever even spinned the inside tire? [w/o lsd]
On track have you ever even spinned the inside tire? [w/o lsd]
well i have the apexi n1 evx that i got from the apexi garage sale, rre sway bar, cusco strut bars, cusco lower arm bars and an ingall stiffy. the car rides pretty nice and corners pretty flat. but i wanted more so i was talking to robert fuller aka Robi about what i am looking for and for $900 he going to set me up with custom springs and helper springs and certain bushings that he recomend, alignment and corner balancing the car. if you saw the american touge 2 you know what robi's car can do. i didn't choose robispec because he was better than RRE, it was because RRE or RRC is great at setting up the cars for track use but they are not the only ones that can set up a car, american touge 2 prove that!
Originally Posted by Michael Adair
I have done the searches BUT...I have a few general questions. I do not intend this to be a comparison just information between both setups, what they include and value. Robispec basic, Robispec full spec and Mullerized:
I tried Eibach pro kits with stock struts and it rode worse than stock, and that is saying something....
I would certainly consider the Bilsteins as well...
Criteria:
1. Lower car properly
2. Improve ride quality '03 bone crusher, rough Minnesota roads
3. Handle 2 trackdays a year
4. Make the car neutral or slighty oversteer
5. Hold up in the MN winter, salt and crap, it wrecks wheels everything...
6. Spend $1500 give or take $200.00
Thanks in advance to anyone who replies..
Michael
I tried Eibach pro kits with stock struts and it rode worse than stock, and that is saying something....
I would certainly consider the Bilsteins as well...
Criteria:
1. Lower car properly
2. Improve ride quality '03 bone crusher, rough Minnesota roads
3. Handle 2 trackdays a year
4. Make the car neutral or slighty oversteer
5. Hold up in the MN winter, salt and crap, it wrecks wheels everything...
6. Spend $1500 give or take $200.00
Thanks in advance to anyone who replies..
Michael
that said buddyclub seems your best bet. but then you're saying you need to stand up to harsh weather nad coilovers need to be built in harsh conditions.
you're being quite impossible.
if you want just hte lowering spring idea, then you can get the espelir springs with a roll bar, rear trial arm bushing and throw in a quaife and if you'd like to compete seriously some camber plates cuz tire roll over is a time killer. but this is not gonna be a cushy ride... it'll be like stock...
Last edited by trinydex; Apr 11, 2006 at 01:20 AM.
Originally Posted by Stop&TurnFreak
Classified Ad for coil-overs I just put my old track/street setup for sale, if you are interested. They are dialed in already, and there is video proof of the performance.
Originally Posted by evo ippo
because he was better than RRE, it was because RRE or RRC is great at setting up the cars for track use but they are not the only ones that can set up a car, american touge 2 prove that! 
I am actually not going to sell them, at least for a while. I am going to revavle them, and then resetup the car for slicks. I want to get something different, but I can't afford to get what I want. I would prefer something less 'off the shelf', and more custom. I have access to some of the Cup teams suspension guys, so I may just work with their providers and get something 'custom' for my car.
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