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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 09:51 AM
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I will pm you price of both kits.
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Jazzie604
so for someone without much suspension experience, would the kw 3's be too much for autox use? I guess it depends on my learning curve, but would it be straight forward enough to get settings close without screwing everything up?
There's nothing straightforward about setting up a car's handling, given all the variables involved - tires, tire pressures, track conditions, spring rates, swaybars, chassis reinforcement (cage / no cage), corner balancing, the driver.

Given an unlimited budget and time, you can "grow" into a setup. But if your knowledge, budget and time is limited, then adding in 3 ways of adjustability will most likely be much more than you need.

Case in point: an East Coast Honda Challenge team was sponsored by KW this season and were given a set of KW V2's each, rebound and compression seperately adjustable. Even with their knowledge of the car and desired handling characteristics and its existing setup, they spent the better half of the season trying to dial in these coilovers before ditching them the day before Nationals and running their older, fixed damping setup which they were comfortable (and fast) with.
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Noob4life
There's nothing straightforward about setting up a car's handling, given all the variables involved - tires, tire pressures, track conditions, spring rates, swaybars, chassis reinforcement (cage / no cage), corner balancing, the driver.

Given an unlimited budget and time, you can "grow" into a setup. But if your knowledge, budget and time is limited, then adding in 3 ways of adjustability will most likely be much more than you need.

Case in point: an East Coast Honda Challenge team was sponsored by KW this season and were given a set of KW V2's each, rebound and compression seperately adjustable. Even with their knowledge of the car and desired handling characteristics and its existing setup, they spent the better half of the season trying to dial in these coilovers before ditching them the day before Nationals and running their older, fixed damping setup which they were comfortable (and fast) with.
KW V2's are not 2 way adjustable, only one way.

While I agree that setting up a 2 way, and i mean really setting it up correctly, can be difficult at times, it's not impossible.

With the KW's, a baseline setting (that is very good) is provided, so you are not all alone in the dark. SO you could just simply leave it there and be happy. But from that starting point, you can easily tune in either direction, and if you muck things up, just return to where you started from. Me, Myles, and plenty of other people can give recommendations on what to change to reach a desired feeling.

I personally like fiddling with adjustments....but you are right...not everyone does and not everyone has the time.




And any racing team that can't set-up a 2 way after half a season needs to do some studying! (I know....i don't know the whole story)


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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Jazzie604
so for someone without much suspension experience, would the kw 3's be too much for autox use? I guess it depends on my learning curve, but would it be straight forward enough to get settings close without screwing everything up?
I would think you would be fine. The provided setting is very good, so you don't have to worry about completely screwing things up.....you'll always have that "safety net."

We can also recommend changes to your set-up to achieve goals that you have in mind.

In fact, I would say that the KW's really shine on the auto-x course. Plenty of droop travel, so lifting the inside rear wheel is not as much a problem as it is with short travel JDM style coilovers. Proper spring rates for the evo platform, tuned for the auto-x course, is really a great combination.


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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by GTWORX.com
I would think you would be fine. The provided setting is very good, so you don't have to worry about completely screwing things up.....you'll always have that "safety net."

We can also recommend changes to your set-up to achieve goals that you have in mind.

In fact, I would say that the KW's really shine on the auto-x course. Plenty of droop travel, so lifting the inside rear wheel is not as much a problem as it is with short travel JDM style coilovers. Proper spring rates for the evo platform, tuned for the auto-x course, is really a great combination.


- andrew
good news to hear. though it will be a while, I'll definitely be looking at you guys once Im ready to step up. thanks for all the help.
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 07:30 PM
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Works/ohlins Stage 3

Ftw!
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Old Aug 3, 2008 | 08:49 PM
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I figured I would jack this two year old threat and bring some life back into this discussion. I read through the responses and understand there are important differences between the levels of adjustability found on each set of coilovers.

In my asking for a recommendation, I am looking for a bang for your buck set of coilovers. Like the OP I am looking for a set of mid level coilovers that can be used as a daily driver, but also can be curcuit tracked competitively. Of course there must be compromises for a DD car but I am willing to accept a harsher ride if I can handle well on the track. I track more often (and I think more 'seriiously' than the OP? no offense meant by that, just that I am track more than 'occassionally') so I would like a slight bias toward the track...

I have just started my research on coilovers as they are a better thing to spend money to go fast then more motor. From what I have gathered thus far, the KW varient 3's and the Buddy Club racing spec coilovers are around 2 grand and are both highly rated. Is this a proper price point (2000) to be around for a high quality set of coilovers? if so, what other sets are good at this price point?

Thanks all!
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 02:03 PM
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I know this thread is old making this confusing... just trying to avoid starting a new thread... but i may have to... BUMP!

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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by JDMevoBOOST
Stock suspension on the street and use the coilovers on the track. That way you don't come on to evom crying about how your new coilover is blown because you hit a pot hole. Sorry for the rant but I am tired of seeing threads about how coilovers are uncomfortable on the street (duh!!!!) and how they have blown on people that drive on ****ty unpaved roads.
Thats funny you "rant" about poor driveability on the streets. My car rides 10 times better than the original GSR suspension. Why would they blow from hitting a pot hole when your stockers wouldn't? This kinda misinformation is unhelpfull and just plain out inaccurate.
If you are rarely going to go to the track why would you want the KW V III thats just over kill and a bit too expensive.
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by slvrr
Thats funny you "rant" about poor driveability on the streets. My car rides 10 times better than the original GSR suspension. Why would they blow from hitting a pot hole when your stockers wouldn't? This kinda misinformation is unhelpfull and just plain out inaccurate.
If you are rarely going to go to the track why would you want the KW V III thats just over kill and a bit too expensive.
Read my above post... I was trying to recycle this thread, apparently a bad idea...
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 12:18 AM
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let me straighten this out.
Megans dont come close to "mid level" coilovers. There lucky to be grouped at the top of lower systems. For that matter almost every Japanese coilover is made in the same factory somewhere in Asia. Buddyclubs offering is slightly better then the basic Tien and also classed in the "low level" group.
All the systems that the OP posted where twice as good as any lower level coilovers and bridge the gap of daily drivability and track performance quite well.
Those mentioned in the OP where considered mid level picks and answers should be appropriate and not misleading.
That being said;
As Andrew said who has the most unbiased and most informative posts I read usually in this forum and for that matter thus far in this post would reflect my feelings.
I was dead set on Ohlins and was a day away from ordering a set when I chose otherwise.
Reasons are:
-1 way adjustable
-rebuilds necessary every 2 seasons of tracking and DD from the info I gathered.
I ended up with KW Robispec streets.
reasons are:
-2 way adjustable
- people still driving on V3s after 4 years of DD and tracking without really any negatives.
-Great support from Robi
These are my experiences and I hope that they help you make the decision right for you.
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Protostar1
Read my above post... I was trying to recycle this thread, apparently a bad idea...
Yea like a retard I didn't look at the thread date haha. I still stand behind what I said but its just a little ummmm late.
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