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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 08:38 AM
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I've heard the stock Bilsteins you have are pretty good. Mitsubishi engineers have put a little time and effort into the design. Change for the sake of change is not the best path.
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 09:33 AM
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I want to give my car a more agressive look by lowering it a little. I've read on here about using springs and got mixed reviews. Some say aftermarket springs with stock bilstiens are good depending on which ones you go with( swift, works). Others say it's a bad idea, and coilovers would be better. I had coilover on my last car and loved them. So I want to go with something that is going to give me that drop I want but not take away from the performance of the car.
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by aboh6leenz
What coilovers would you suggest for decent ride quality, reliability, and decent performance. I have some coilovers on now and I personally think they ride like crap. It might be how I set them up or whatever but and good roads they are fine on crappy roads I start to feel sick, and it's hard for me to "feel" sick.

Oh I like the megan exhaust good price for a true 3'' tbe.
Bilstein PSS9 or KW Variant 3. KW's for a lot more performance at the expense of just a little ride quality.


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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
A good suspension for drag??? You don't get suspension for drag racing unless you have a monster car that needs to tweak every last bit in order to launch. For rally, you'd need a completely different type of suspension than normal that is bouncy and soft so that it can withstand the constant bumps and change in terrain. That will not be the same suspension you'd drive daily for good handling.

It sounds like you don't have any use for coilovers and just want to put some on for the sake of putting them on. In that case, get a set of Megan street coilovers for $850 and be done with it.
I agree completely. Just getting a set of Swift springs and a rear swaybar will be enough for you.

Not everyone needs coilovers.

"Rally" suspension is not something you should consider.....as the good stuff costs $texas. Everything else will break. True rally suspension is just not something you won't for the street in any case.



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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 09:41 AM
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As the saying goes....if you have to ask, you "probably" don't need coilovers.

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I want to give my car a more agressive look by lowering it a little. I've read on here about using springs and got mixed reviews. Some say aftermarket springs with stock bilstiens are good depending on which ones you go with( swift, works). Others say it's a bad idea, and coilovers would be better. I had coilover on my last car and loved them. So I want to go with something that is going to give me that drop I want but not take away from the performance of the car.
It definitely sounds like springs are for you. Of course coilovers will handle better (usually), but Swifts will give you a more aggressive look and increase your handling capability.


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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 09:54 AM
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If you are going to rally your car, you will want to user softer spring rates and increase the clearance from the tire to your fender. In other words, you might actually want to keep your ride height stock or even increase it ... If it's just for mostly daily driving, some drag run and the very rare rally-x, as GTWORX has recommended consider running some Swift springs and a larger rear sway bar ...
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 10:06 AM
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Thanks for all the help guys.
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 10:12 AM
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dont just get springs i hated my car when i just had spring!i got tanabe coilovers for a good price i love them!
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 10:15 AM
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Ok, so the real reason this whole time was because you wanted to lower the car. Just come out and say it next time.

Springs will do that, but I'm still not a proponent of risking damage to the stock Bilsteins by using springs. If you go that route, definitely do Swift or Espelir GT and talk to Robi about doing it properly...
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by bluebyu36
dont just get springs i hated my car when i just had spring!i got tanabe coilovers for a good price i love them!
WELL what kind of springs did you have? Not all springs are the same!


I wouldn't judge all women based on my last bad experience with that one cheating *****.....so you shouldn't judge all springs based on Tein s-techs.


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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 10:33 AM
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ya you are a 100 percent wright, i had the tein s tech's what a pile of crap!
i guess some springs would be much better!just had a bad expirence with those.
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by bluebyu36
ya you are a 100 percent wright, i had the tein s tech's what a pile of crap!
i guess some springs would be much better!just had a bad expirence with those.
Yay I guessed right. Anyway, consider yourself lucky you figured out they sucked....a lot of people just think that's how a sports car is supposed to ride/handle.


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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Ok, so the real reason this whole time was because you wanted to lower the car. Just come out and say it next time.

Springs will do that, but I'm still not a proponent of risking damage to the stock Bilsteins by using springs. If you go that route, definitely do Swift or Espelir GT and talk to Robi about doing it properly...
I'll keep that in mind next time. Anyways that's my problem, I want something that I will not have problems with later on down the road. If going with springs might cause damage to stock Bilsteins, then I should go with a coilover, right? I'm trying to figure out which one would be the best to go with.

Oh one last thing who's Robi and how do I get in touch with him, just in case!

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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 10:58 AM
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Depends on the spring, you don't want a spring that will lower the car too much and possibly bottom out the shocks over bumps and hit the bumpstops, that is what will damage your dampners. Good quality springs won't do that. Listen to GTWORX, he is the only one in this thread that has real hands on experience and knows what he is talking about ...
To get a hold of Robi, you can PM him here or goto:

www.Robispec.com
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 11:19 AM
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Whenever there is a thread discussing springs, I noticed many members immediately suggesting coilovers.
I think this thread clearly shows that for many, especially ones using evo as a dd, coilover is not really necessary.
It takes a lot more than just putting on coilovers and calling it a day.
Imho, coilovers take time and knowledge to properly set up.
Unfortunately for many, they put on parts on the car just to put them on without getting any benefits from them.
I think properly designed springs such as swift in addition with rear swaybar would be sufficient for those of us who aren't yet planning on racing or auto-x our cars.
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