how low is to low?
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Satisfying to see someone speaking some sense.....
All alliteration aside, how low do you want it? Do you think you'll miss or even notice the difference in handling? I hate to say it, but just getting Tein S-techs will probably make you happy. It really doesn't sound like you care about handling. You'll blow your stock struts/shocks shortly, but hey, who cares right? At least it's low!
- Andrew
All alliteration aside, how low do you want it? Do you think you'll miss or even notice the difference in handling? I hate to say it, but just getting Tein S-techs will probably make you happy. It really doesn't sound like you care about handling. You'll blow your stock struts/shocks shortly, but hey, who cares right? At least it's low!
- Andrew
Thanks warrtalon. If I install the balljoint extenders and have someone corner balance it could I at least get the front end down some or is it pointless to even try. I want it lower but Im not willing to give up handling, thats why I posted this. But I do want to get it as low as possible, so if I could get away with doing something like balljoint exenders that would allow another 1/2 inch I wouldnt have a problem with it.
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I am highly considering doing that as well, but eventually I want rebuildable coilovers anyways cause I am not willing to spend the money on new stock struts, so I figered I might as well buy coilovers and lower the car as much as I can without negativly effecting the handling
My apologies, i think i did misjudge you. This question comes up a LOT, and it's usually from a certain crowd that does not honestly care about handling at all, but it seems you really do, and that's good to see.
It's a difficult question to answer, because suspension is all about compromises.
Low and soft = crappy handling, crappy ride
Low and stiff = good handling, decent ride
Very low and stiff = decently good handling, not a great ride
Very low and soft = don't even think about it
Now that i understand you better, get a dual height adjustable coilover so you can lower it a lot without sacrificing travel.
My vote is Cusco Zero 2R. With Whiteline ball joint extenders.
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It's a difficult question to answer, because suspension is all about compromises.
Low and soft = crappy handling, crappy ride
Low and stiff = good handling, decent ride
Very low and stiff = decently good handling, not a great ride
Very low and soft = don't even think about it
Now that i understand you better, get a dual height adjustable coilover so you can lower it a lot without sacrificing travel.
My vote is Cusco Zero 2R. With Whiteline ball joint extenders.
- Andrew
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Thank you andrew for your response, its greatly appreciated. I had a friend that had the zero 2r's on his wrx and he ended up blowing them out and no one could rebuild them. One main reason that I would consider coilovers would be so I can rebuild them instead of waisting my money on new stock shocks and struts. Granted that was over a year ago when they were still relativly new. So has anything changed in the last year?
I got into this conversation late but... YES - That's the answer I would have given.
Once you go lower than that the geometry gets messed up and things start getting funky. There are fixes for that though - so you can go as low as you want. However...
My understanding of the EVO's suspension is that its travel is already relatively short (when compared to STI for example) and any additional lowering will further reduce the wheel travel.
Unfortunately, I'm not completely sure on how that affets things like dynamic camber or the results of bumpy road conditions on the car or its handeling.. perhaps someone can fill in the blanks on this subject.
EDIT: It's possible that the correct answer may end up being - you can't go any lower without some compromise in handeling or ride quality.
Once you go lower than that the geometry gets messed up and things start getting funky. There are fixes for that though - so you can go as low as you want. However...
My understanding of the EVO's suspension is that its travel is already relatively short (when compared to STI for example) and any additional lowering will further reduce the wheel travel.
Unfortunately, I'm not completely sure on how that affets things like dynamic camber or the results of bumpy road conditions on the car or its handeling.. perhaps someone can fill in the blanks on this subject.
EDIT: It's possible that the correct answer may end up being - you can't go any lower without some compromise in handeling or ride quality.
Last edited by Evo_Someday; Feb 5, 2007 at 11:23 AM.
Also, I jumped on this thread as I have my car lowered on buddy clubs but today i noticed that the front rolls a little too much for my taste... I could be my tires.. but I am running them at 32PSI (stock tires)
My front is a little lower than the back about one finger gap. and the rear has 1.5 fingers gap.
1 finger = 1/2"
My front is a little lower than the back about one finger gap. and the rear has 1.5 fingers gap.
1 finger = 1/2"


