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Old Jun 3, 2007 | 12:02 AM
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The Best Suspention Setup

Lately i've been thinking of making my Evo7 a track car.. i already have a few thoughts on my mind, but i would appreciate some input as well. my car has a Cusco CF 40mm front strut bar and eibach springs.

so here's my list so far
  • Cusco Front Stabilizer Sway Bar
  • Cusco OS-T Rear Triangle Additional Bar
  • Cusco 40mm Carbon Rear Strut Bar
  • Cusco Lower Arm Bar Version I
  • TEIN Super Street Damper
  • TEIN EDFC Controller Kit
  • TEIN EDFC Strut Kit


if im missing something i would appreciate a few pointers
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Old Jun 3, 2007 | 12:21 AM
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I recently decided that I am going to start tracking my car aswell. I decided on the following suspension mods

Cusco 25 front 23 rear sway bars
Cusco Ti front and os rear with ost strut bars
Cusco type 1 and 2 lower frame braces
Cusco power braces: Trunk, front, center and side
Cusco Zero 2 coilovers

I am not going to get the electronic control for the coilovers because I dont think I will use it much once I get it all diled in. I also plan on getting corner balancing done. Hopefully get in on somthing with robispec when they visit Texas or somthing.
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Old Jun 3, 2007 | 08:27 AM
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pass on all the monkey bars, I bet they add up to:
-1 set of nice sticky tires
-2 days at a local track day
both of which will help you enjoy the car a lot more when you're actually DRIVING it.

edit: unless you've got already got your tires and your share of seat time. Then I'd still so no to monkey bars, and start looking into a rollcage if chassis stiffening is your game. Might as well do it right, and a real track car can never be too safe. The Evo's are quick, and are flying around the tracks even in HPDE, so you definitely want to have some protection if you're going to seriously track it. Since it's not a DD you don't need to worry about the negatives of a rollcage.

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Old Jun 3, 2007 | 08:43 AM
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Yeah, really, that's a lot of unnecessary hardware that won't necessarily do anything. What you should focus on are:

- Excellent dampers that are configured to work hand-in-hand with the spring rate you choose
- Corner balancing
- Alignment
- Tires

All that Cusco stuff is just for show.
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Old Jun 3, 2007 | 08:46 AM
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+1 I'd stop with all the bars and focus on your coilovers. Get rid of that Tein junk and get yourself some real coilovers. Then focus on finding somebody who knows how to setup suspensions, preferably somebody who knows Evos or AWD cars. It's all in the alignment/setup.
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Old Jun 3, 2007 | 10:34 AM
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Look into some KWs, Ohlins, or Motons, forget about Tein.
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 12:50 AM
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I'd have to disagree with you guys on the Tein's.

a couple of my close friends got Tein suspension on their cars (Evo7 and FC3S) and they handle through corners like a knife through butter. i was amazed to see that these coilovers worked wonders and completely transformed the handling!

and about the monkey bars, they help prevent body roll which you would definitely want on the track.
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 01:28 AM
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i've fully caged my evo with a nice custom 6 pt cage, turned the camber bolts for a bit more neg camber up front, threw on some RA1's. everything else is stock (springs, shocks, ride height, everything). the car handles beautifully (neutral) and its damn fast on the track and i dont need anything more at this point.

the only reason i consider suspension mods is because people constantly tell me it looks like my evo is going to tip over on corner exit. that stock suspension sure is HIGH like 4x4
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by spdracerut
Look into some KWs, Ohlins, or Motons, forget about Tein.
KW Variant 3 coilovers have independent bump and rebound and can be bought for a good price. TEIN Super Racing (Circuit Master) coilovers also have this but are significantly more expensive than the KWs, but are supposed to be better (subjective).

Ohlins Flag series coilovers also offer a remote reservoir like the TEIN Super Racing and KW V3s but are very expensive.

Get a custom set done by RoadRace Engineering or RobiSpec with corner weighting and alignment, a set of sticky R-compound rubbers and a set of PF rotors with PF97 pads and you're set. The rear sway bar may help some if you can afford it, and I have been advised by professional racers (track, autoX and rally) here that a front sway bar designed to match the rear sway (rigidity/stiffness play a part, not just thickness) bar will actually contribute to a better balanced car, contrary to popular belief that only a rear sway bar is required. if you can afford a set of front and rear sway bars, they are worth considering.
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Yeah, really, that's a lot of unnecessary hardware that won't necessarily do anything. What you should focus on are:

- Excellent dampers that are configured to work hand-in-hand with the spring rate you choose
- Corner balancing
- Alignment
- Tires

All that Cusco stuff is just for show.
+10
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Freez
I'd have to disagree with you guys on the Tein's.

a couple of my close friends got Tein suspension on their cars (Evo7 and FC3S) and they handle through corners like a knife through butter. i was amazed to see that these coilovers worked wonders and completely transformed the handling!

and about the monkey bars, they help prevent body roll which you would definitely want on the track.
That's funny, for a guy who's never even been on track, you sure seem to know alot about tracking. I second actually DRIVING it first before you plan to spend a wallop on parts.
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Freez
I'd have to disagree with you guys on the Tein's.

a couple of my close friends got Tein suspension on their cars (Evo7 and FC3S) and they handle through corners like a knife through butter. i was amazed to see that these coilovers worked wonders and completely transformed the handling!

and about the monkey bars, they help prevent body roll which you would definitely want on the track.
Well then you will be amazed if you get in an Evo with real suspension
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by XK120
Well then you will be amazed if you get in an Evo with real suspension
thats what im trying to do here
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by yudalicious
That's funny, for a guy who's never even been on track, you sure seem to know alot about tracking. I second actually DRIVING it first before you plan to spend a wallop on parts.
i dont have to be in a track to know how a car handles .. our roads are full of twists and turns, that would be enough to judge a car's stability
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 08:55 AM
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Not quite. I used to think so myself, then I got proven wrong

You never push the car as hard on the street as you can get away with on track.
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