Okay i need to get me a set of coilovers.........But i know nothing about them. I got my heart set on TEIN since i hear nothing but good things about them.

Im looking for a setup that is streetable and holds it down at the track. I also wanna be able to change the ride height and dampener. I was looking at the TEIN mono flex and flex but dont really know what the big differences are. Something that is stiffer than stock is great, just wanna be able to have a nice comfy ride as possible when im daily driving it........and I just wanna be able to change the height and stuff when i need to.

Can anyone give me any pointers on what would be a good start as far as coilovers??

thanks in advance. i searched but nothing on different types of setups.

 

Why do you need coilovers if you know nothing about them?

It seems that most people in your position end up getting coilovers anyways, and the fact of the matter is the lack of knowledge allows them to overlook or misinterpret the shortcomings of a poorly designed coilover and so not be able to tell the difference between a bad choice and a good choice. In a nutshell: for those in your situation, any choice is a good choice, so long as its as cheap as possible.

But despite this, and despite the fact that a seach for "coilovers" turns up 9 helpful results on just the first page alone which you seem to have missed, lets determine how beneficial coilovers would be in your case.

Answer: stock. Plenty streetable, and plenty capable at the track. The Evo handles so well stock to the point of being foolproof, it can make anyone look like they know what they're doing. You don't need to upgrade your coilovers for that.

Realistically, how many times will you be changing the ride height of the car? And yes I'm being nitpicky, but coilovers don't come with dampeners, shocks don't dampen and the only way to change the dampening of a shock is to blast it with a hose; the term is damp, or damping (I did this for your own good, now you know). And again, why do you need adjustable damping in the first place? A shock with a well valved range of adjustable damping can fine-tune the balance of a car in cornering situations - it's not supposed to be used to adjust ride quality, although ride quality is affected. Springs have the largest effect on ride quality, and for the sake of this discussion, springs rates are not adjustable.

Stiffer is great, but you want it as comfortable as possible? Think about that for a second, is what you are asking for reasonable, or even possible? Stiffer is the exact opposite of comfortable when it comes to suspension, how can you have both? You want a compromise - yes, coilovers can get you a compromise, but you need to determine where you want to fall in the comfort-performance scale. And since ride comfort is subjective, you'll have a hard time finding the answer to that question by asking other people.

My pointer: determine how often you're going to track the car, whether or not you are even able to drive the car at it's current limits, and how much ride quality you are willing to give up for better handling. From the looks of it, you value ride quality more than performance, and won't be hitting the track (road course, auto-x) often enough to need better performance than stock. I suggest looking into some quality lowering springs, they will give you a nice drop, generally a stiffer ride than stock so you feel like you've done something, and won't break the bank.

Search results are here, take a look: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/se...archid=6849984

 

thanks man i appreciate the info. yeah i guess im just looking at the opinions of others around me and what they say. your info makes great sense as i read it. I do wanna drop the car a little so i guess i could keep my shocks and just get some lowering springs. that should stiffen the ride a bit and drop me as much as i want to be dropped.

thanks for everything man. your info was just what i needed. tech-s springs would be nice i think. but im gonna keep looking.

 

DONT GET TEIN S-TECHS!!!!!! Especially if you dont want to buy new struts all the time! The drop is too harsh for our stock suspension. Good spring are either the GTWorx.com or Swifts! I hear Swifts are the best, hence why thats what Im getting for Christmas!

But the best choices from what Ive gathered so far is: Swift or GTWorx, or a set of Coilovers. A good basic, entry level coilover is the Megan Racing Street Coilovers which Zeus Motorsports has a groupbuy on right now for a Great Price!

I am yet to hear anything performance wise suggesting S-techs, those are only for if your car is a SHOW car!

Good Luck with your decision!

 

check out the GTworks springs. It doesn't slam you car and provides significant improvement.

 

well this is what i like............info from other riders........i wont get them based on that. I got offered megan coilovers for 800 but i dont like megan too much as far as headers and exhuast and other componets i have experienced to FAIL.

if anyone uses megan coilovers let me know how it is

 

I dont currently use megans, but I was damn close to buying them! I decided to order swift springs since they offer all I need for the difference in price. For a daily driver, looking for a drop for looks and a little stiffer for the occasional track event, the Swifts did all I need!

But, after talking to John Shepard and hearing all the Great things he had to say about them, I would say they are well worth the money! I also have to say I would DEFINATELY take Sheps word for these things seems how he does have an immense amount of expertise in racing....a 7 sec drag car and his evo runs deep 11s! Very credible source!

 

what kind of swifts are you using??

 

the swift sport springs, not the mr version or the new type r...just the basic swifts, iptuned.com has them on sale for $264 shipped right now!

 

now the question is that im better off getting the springs with some new struts correct?? some people told me that getting new springs with stock strut towers will put more stress on the strut. so to me that means i should get some type of coilover setup.

also will progressive rate springs give me some better handling then stock. those might be an option because of the driveability. but i will need to get struts too i presume.....

sorry im freikin stupid on this suspension thing but im learning.

 

also is the suspension the same as the VIII. i see some setups that say for the VIII. is there any differences in the suspension from the IX or VIII.

i am leaning towards the flex or mono flex setups from TEIN.

 

hi i have a evo9 mr. do u guys think the swift springs type r would make a difference or should i not even bother messing with the suspension.

 

I'd shoot GTWorx on this forum a PM and ask him straight up, I'm sure you will get an answer. Shocks can handle a range of spring rates, the question is how well your choice of shocks can control your choice of spring rates. In other words, will your ride be over-damped or under-damped or just right with that setup?

Over-damped means the valving of the shock causes it to be too much for the springs, the springs are not able to function fully because the damping is too stiff. The shocks over-power the springs, because the damping forces generated by the shocks are "stronger" than the rate of the springs.

An under-damped suspension will have the springs over-working the shocks. The valving of the shocks is too weak to handle the higher spring rates, and so the shocks cannot effectively control spring motions.

In either situation, the life of your shocks can be decreased. Which isn't to say that new shocks are required with new springs, it just means that shocks and springs should be correctly paired to function as one unit.

A progressive rate spring may or may not perform as well as stock due to several reasons, including the above mentioned reasons. Generally, aftermarket springs are stiffer and sit the car lower than stock. Within reason, both will allow the car to handle better.

Suspension swaps with no problems between the Evo VIII's and Evo IX's as far as I know. Spring seats may have been changed on the stock shocks.

 

nice thanks for the info.......in regards to the whole matching the springs with the proper shocks so that one another can work together effectively......the coilover setups out there that come with springs and shocks together.....would they ideally work together since they are sold and made to be installed together persay.

if so then i will automatically go with some type of coilover set such as the tein mono flex or flex.

 

bro if u can afford coilovers get the them are way better then any spring dont listen to anybody.