When do calipers need a rebuild?
[QUOTE=KZEVO;5543700is there a way to check if the pistons are all working right. i don't have anyone that can sit in the car and press the pedal for me to see if all 4pistons work.
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A simple way to check for stuck pistons is to cruise down the highway for a few miles and then coast to a stop without using the brakes. Get out and check for a hot wheel. Be careful, if a brake is dragging the wheel could be very hot.
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A simple way to check for stuck pistons is to cruise down the highway for a few miles and then coast to a stop without using the brakes. Get out and check for a hot wheel. Be careful, if a brake is dragging the wheel could be very hot.
I usually rebuild mine every ~3 years (but I only got out 3-4 times a year) even when there are no signs of issues. When I was using wilwoods on my other car, I just replaced the entire caliper (only $110 each) instead of rebuilding. If I did ~10 events/year, I would probably rebuild them each year.
Again, consistent thorough inspections is probably the key here.
Don't know the consensus, but my boots have been cracked since last year. The important part is thorough inspection before and every track event looking for leaks, and do rebuild (ie, replace the piston seals) if you find anything suspicious............
Again, consistent thorough inspections is probably the key here.
Again, consistent thorough inspections is probably the key here.
Pulled my pads out this weekend and the calipers off as well to put on new rotors. Check out the pads below. I already had an order in for new seals and dustboots from Girodisc. I'm thinking it's a MUST now instead of just early maintenance.






Got all the seals out now for the fronts. It's really not too bad. Following a good writeup here:
http://club4g.org/board/suspension/9...breakdown.html
Putting things back together now. The pistons don't want to go back in past the new seals as there's friction there. Is this normal and do I just need to force them past somehow? I don't think the pads will fit back on and everything back over the rotors as they stand now...
Anyone know the trick?
http://club4g.org/board/suspension/9...breakdown.html
Putting things back together now. The pistons don't want to go back in past the new seals as there's friction there. Is this normal and do I just need to force them past somehow? I don't think the pads will fit back on and everything back over the rotors as they stand now...
Anyone know the trick?
Last edited by boomn29; Jun 8, 2009 at 07:58 PM.
Got all the seals out now for the fronts. It's really not too bad. Following a good writeup here:
http://club4g.org/board/suspension/9...breakdown.html
Putting things back together now. The pistons don't want to go back in past the new seals as there's friction there. Is this normal and do I just need to force them past somehow? I don't think the pads will fit back on and everything back over the rotors as they stand now...
Anyone know the trick?
http://club4g.org/board/suspension/9...breakdown.html
Putting things back together now. The pistons don't want to go back in past the new seals as there's friction there. Is this normal and do I just need to force them past somehow? I don't think the pads will fit back on and everything back over the rotors as they stand now...
Anyone know the trick?
Overall it wasn't too bad of a job. It's messy, anything with brakes are. I put on new rotors and new Hawk pads while I was at it. Now I just need to replace the fluid that leaked out and hope I did it all correctly!
Thanks to Johann @ Girodisc for the setup.
Edit - pics added:
Here's all the old dust boots (all cracked into 2 pieces and brittle) and seals from just my fronts.

Shot of the front caliper - all done!
Last edited by boomn29; Jun 9, 2009 at 08:39 PM.
God dammmmn boom
. I'll have to have pops recheck them again but I think i'm in good shape still because I started with the Ti backing plates. No black gunk or anything to be seen and i'm sure we're both just as hard on em. Something to consider while you got the process down pact 
. I'll have to have pops recheck them again but I think i'm in good shape still because I started with the Ti backing plates. No black gunk or anything to be seen and i'm sure we're both just as hard on em. Something to consider while you got the process down pact God dammmmn boom
. I'll have to have pops recheck them again but I think i'm in good shape still because I started with the Ti backing plates. No black gunk or anything to be seen and i'm sure we're both just as hard on em. Something to consider while you got the process down pact 

. I'll have to have pops recheck them again but I think i'm in good shape still because I started with the Ti backing plates. No black gunk or anything to be seen and i'm sure we're both just as hard on em. Something to consider while you got the process down pact Yeah, I've been flooding this thread with pics! I didn't find a lot of details so I wanted to try and help out others.
Just to let you know, I did not notice any braking deterioration prior to me seeing some of the leakage. So it must have been extremely minor and no ill effects. I have been using Ti shims up front too, but only since the start of 2008. They look pretty torched!
Had some more caliper issues I wanted to make others aware of.
1) Partially stripped one of the caliper support bolts. I have longer 10mm allen-head bolts as part of my Forge cooling duct kit. Not sure how I screwed this up, so just beware. I also check the torque everytime I change tires!
2) Tonight I actually cracked off a bleeder nipple! I was trying to bleed the brakes and was loosening the outside front using a deep 11mm socket. It broke off right at the caliper level (see pic). Crazy eh! I'm thinking this is probably because of both the age/usage of the bleeder and the fact I probably overtighten it nearly every time.
1) Partially stripped one of the caliper support bolts. I have longer 10mm allen-head bolts as part of my Forge cooling duct kit. Not sure how I screwed this up, so just beware. I also check the torque everytime I change tires!
2) Tonight I actually cracked off a bleeder nipple! I was trying to bleed the brakes and was loosening the outside front using a deep 11mm socket. It broke off right at the caliper level (see pic). Crazy eh! I'm thinking this is probably because of both the age/usage of the bleeder and the fact I probably overtighten it nearly every time.
Had some more caliper issues I wanted to make others aware of.
1) Partially stripped one of the caliper support bolts. I have longer 10mm allen-head bolts as part of my Forge cooling duct kit. Not sure how I screwed this up, so just beware. I also check the torque everytime I change tires!
1) Partially stripped one of the caliper support bolts. I have longer 10mm allen-head bolts as part of my Forge cooling duct kit. Not sure how I screwed this up, so just beware. I also check the torque everytime I change tires!
I think the forge screw is just a hair too long, the brake dust, rust and crap build onto the end of bolt that sticks out on the other end. Then when you undo the bolts, the dirt adds resistance and the bolt gets partially stripped (along with the threads on the caliper

Next time I will be sure to blow some air, brake cleaner & then penetrating oil into the space between rotor and caliper to try and loosed the junk up from the end of the bolt. If I can slide out the disc without removing caliper, I may try to wire brush in there as well.
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