Ah, what?




Swift puts in a ton of research into their product. Their dedication to that research is a great product.

Also, as of 3hrs ago the Spec Rs are on my car! My review comparing the Sports to Spec Rs is underway.

 

Swift's product is about to get a real review from me soon... People that are biased too one company shouldn't write reviews. It's wrong too tell people too buy a product that promises improved performance over stock..
The Bilsteins when paired with a shorter spring = ?????
A lower performing Bilstein Genius..

The Bilsteins may feel like they have a lot of body roll and springs may take that feeling away, but that's all your going too get. A "stiffer" lower suspension

I honestly am faster on real roads with the stock bilsteins then I was with my zeal coilovers as well as with the lowering springs.. for the exact same reason.. Tire contact with the ground

How can anyone think that a super low Bilstein that doesn't rebound the same; is somehow going too provide the same grip "performance" and road contact

The stock shocks on the 5 speed are superior too Bilsteins paired up with swift springs

 

I am sorry you are so blinded by anger here. I just want to clear up a few things.

I went with Swifts BEFORE they invited me to represent them. I put in a ton of research before getting them. Andrew at GTWorx and I had lots of talks on what I was after. Secondly, a MAJOR suspension shop - GTWorx has tested them. Thirdly, a professional suspension guru has also independently tested them.

Was I the first to get the HD's and pair them with the Swifts - yes. But I am not alone now - HD/Swifts or GTWorx springs. And the HD's are not the same as the MR's.

As stated before, struts do not care where they stroke from. As long as they do not bottom out. Progressive rating works more as the strut travel decreases.

FYI - we technically have coil-over suspensions as OE. As in, our springs go over the struts, hense - coil-overs. The difference is the Bilstein/KYB and spring is not height or corner adjustable. More like a static coil-over.

It is not roll, they are softer than the KYB's at low speeds. Thats why the are pretty darn comfortable around town.

Times to show you are faster? I am faster on the AX courses and tracks.
Sounds more like improper setup if you are tri-poding/poor handling on the street.

Again, struts don't care where they stroke from.

At low speeds, the stiffer KYBs will have a hair on the HD's. But in HPDE's or switch-backs in AX's the HD's are superior valved. The difference was most pronounced at Grattan in the S-turns, where you are swinging weight back and forth.

I have given ride alongs to many people. Including one recently, Bster13.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/6331088-post25.html

Whole thread here:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...stion-two.html

It sounds more like you abused your original struts well before putting on springs. Any spring on a dead/near dying strut will not work. And sometimes, you get a bad set of struts. I have friends with stock MR's go through struts for no reason. Same with KYB's.

 

My Anger??
Im nearly 30 and have owned 3 evo's ..
I don't know how my bilstein couldn't handle the lowrider drop maybe they failed randomly??.. Hilarious Get over yourself , again you're defending yourself against the reality of what the shock is going through..

 

I think that you're the first person to post something like this, other than the guy who track-tested another brand of springs. Don't get me wrong; I don't think it's a bad thing. Comparing experiences, positive or negative, can only be beneficial.

Like you, I mostly drive on the street. Though I've competed in the past with some success, the interest just isn't there these days. My main focus is to be able to corner quickly. My Evo went under the knife last summer and it was the perfect time to do a few mods. I looked into the three major sprigs in gross detail and they all made me uncomfortable for one reason or another. I'm certainly no suspension expert, but I can't disregard what I do understand relative to the objective. I considered the car's geometry and decided to stay with a factory-developed (Bilstein) setup along with upgraded F/R anti-swaybars.

Watching the introduction of the X's aftermarket suspension products played no small part in my decision. A well-known Evos suspension expert put together a complete suspension package in a matter of days. It took him that little time to alter what a team of Mitsubishi engineers designed, tested and refined over the development of the car. That make me feel even less comfortable modding a suspension that performed very well to begin with. I guess I'm trying to say that I understand your concerns.

 

Just got off the phone with Robi himself, I'm sending some parts to him and wanted to wish him Merry Christmas, after talking business I brought up your posts, his reply...you are full of BS...Wow from the man himself the one you call an expert.

Not everyone can afford the baller coilover setup of the week so this is about as close as the average guy can get performance for a modest amount of money.

I don't know John Muller, but I do respect what he has done. You see I helped develop the engine used in GTU #92 driven by his father and worked under some of the same people he did. I know since he made it through those guys he came away with much more than someone reading off the internet or in a book.

Go ahead and make your review thats your right, just know Robi and others will now be watching what you post. Please include the facts and your actual experience in being qualified to make those statments.

 

The stance on the white EVO on Page 2 is hot! The grey EVO on page 3 with the swifts looks great too, hard to tell since it seems the pictures were taken with the wheel turned just to make it appear as though the wheel gap in the front is larger than the rear.

Indy did testing for us on the Apexi N1's fitted with the Swift springs. Major imrovement in the quality of the swift spring vs. the Apexi spring.

Robi knows his stuff for sure. I've got his V2's on my EVO X.

 

I'm curious how you say you're faster on the street with stock suspension compared to aftermarket when SmikeEvo has actual proof and has done a lot of testing to prove that his set-ups do work.

 

Swift Spec R's

 

That story is more amazing than the time Micheal Jackson came to your house to use the bathroom.

 

Does anyone have a picture of their car with the swift spec-r's?

 

I can post some when I go back up to WA, don't got pics on this computer.

My Gallery has close ups of the wheel wells, but no complete sides pics.

 

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...-reviewed.html