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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 01:43 PM
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BC coilovers?

Ive searched an havent come up with nothing..

Would like to get some member reviews etc.. Looking to purchase before the weeks end..

Im thinkin 12k front 10/8k rear.. The car is my weekend toy not a daily.. Some Road coarse, but mainly spirted driving on through town an on the freeway..

Thoughts? Opinions?
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 01:53 PM
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Might also add, lookin to slam an stance with a set of wheels already ordered.. 18x9.5 +20 offset..

Lookin to see the max low they can go an life expectancy when coiled all the way down..
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 01:58 PM
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start off with searching. there are hundreds of threads on this topic. hopefull smike comes in an posts, i would love to have mr. Mother F. u(ker has to say about your post.

my first suggestion, if you choose not to search, would be to reconsider your spring rates (and your brand of choice). evos do better with higher spings in the rear, not in the front.

seeing as how performance is not your goal, choose w/e coilover set up is cheapest and dont care about the springs. your car, your money, your decision
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by boostedtres
start off with searching. there are hundreds of threads on this topic. hopefull smike comes in an posts, i would love to have mr. Mother F. u(ker has to say about your post.

my first suggestion, if you choose not to search, would be to reconsider your spring rates (and your brand of choice). evos do better with higher spings in the rear, not in the front.

seeing as how performance is not your goal, choose w/e coilover set up is cheapest and dont care about the springs. your car, your money, your decision
.. Ive search an found nothing.. The site itself including the search option is not very user friendly.. On another note, i tried Google, an got a few different opinions.. All dating back to 08-current date..

Im still learnin, an have not come across a thread where ive read that higher spring rates in the rear are better, an for that thank you.. Now i know..

Ill continue to search, read, etc.. I was just taking the easy way out, an flat out asked for help.. No need to be a douche.. How about welcome to the community an here's a few links etc..
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 05:03 PM
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rears should be stiffer then the fronts...
bilstein with swifts will be better then BC on road course and spirited driving...
if your gonna go to a road course why would you "slam" your car?
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 05:25 PM
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not trying to be a douche at all, sorry you mistook it that way. lets start again.

welcome to the community.

everyone is going to be telling you to search, so you need to get used to that. yea, the rears should be higher than the front. subies are the opposite.

if your going cheap coilovers, most people are going to tell you go with a bilstein/swift combo. generally this will outperform lower end coilovers, but without the adjustability.

as you requested, here is a few links:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...on-thread.html

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...-comments.html

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...ead-links.html

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...vo-thread.html

Since i dont want to be perceived as a douche, i will simply warn you. coming out and saying you want to make your call hellaflush will get you a ton of hate. most people on here (myself included) think slamming your car and destroying handling is a waste. so prepare yourself.

hopefully this helps. and def toughen up and dont take things personally. its a car forum, guys are gonna bust your ***** esp when you create a thread thats been answered hundreds of times before. good luck with the build and congrats on the purchase.
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 04:40 AM
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boostedtres has a great post.

If you're just after wrecking the handling for looks. Go with cheapest out there. Not going to matter. I mean, you just want to stand by your car and look cool, right? Car will not be happy with you in terms of handling.

Suspension stroke and spring rates is really important to the Evo platform. The motion ratio on this car changes how the rear springs affect wheel rates. E.g. 8k rear will have a much lower wheel rate. If you go with 12k front and 8k rear you will be dialing in understeer to the car.

You really have two options here. Properly do the suspension, wheels, and tires for DD and road days....or just looks with no function.



Originally Posted by boostedtres
not trying to be a douche at all, sorry you mistook it that way. lets start again.

welcome to the community.

everyone is going to be telling you to search, so you need to get used to that. yea, the rears should be higher than the front. subies are the opposite.

if your going cheap coilovers, most people are going to tell you go with a bilstein/swift combo. generally this will outperform lower end coilovers, but without the adjustability.

as you requested, here is a few links:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...on-thread.html

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...-comments.html

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...ead-links.html

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...vo-thread.html

Since i dont want to be perceived as a douche, i will simply warn you. coming out and saying you want to make your call hellaflush will get you a ton of hate. most people on here (myself included) think slamming your car and destroying handling is a waste. so prepare yourself.

hopefully this helps. and def toughen up and dont take things personally. its a car forum, guys are gonna bust your ***** esp when you create a thread thats been answered hundreds of times before. good luck with the build and congrats on the purchase.
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by boostedtres
not trying to be a douche at all, sorry you mistook it that way. lets start again.

welcome to the community.

everyone is going to be telling you to search, so you need to get used to that. yea, the rears should be higher than the front. subies are the opposite.

if your going cheap coilovers, most people are going to tell you go with a bilstein/swift combo. generally this will outperform lower end coilovers, but without the adjustability.

as you requested, here is a few links:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...on-thread.html

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...-comments.html

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...ead-links.html

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...vo-thread.html

Since i dont want to be perceived as a douche, i will simply warn you. coming out and saying you want to make your call hellaflush will get you a ton of hate. most people on here (myself included) think slamming your car and destroying handling is a waste. so prepare yourself.

hopefully this helps. and def toughen up and dont take things personally. its a car forum, guys are gonna bust your ***** esp when you create a thread thats been answered hundreds of times before. good luck with the build and congrats on the purchase.

Thank you... Ive been on many forums over a span of 7-8 yrs.. i think i know what to expect i just didnt think it out..

Originally Posted by Smike
boostedtres has a great post.

If you're just after wrecking the handling for looks. Go with cheapest out there. Not going to matter. I mean, you just want to stand by your car and look cool, right? Car will not be happy with you in terms of handling.

Suspension stroke and spring rates is really important to the Evo platform. The motion ratio on this car changes how the rear springs affect wheel rates. E.g. 8k rear will have a much lower wheel rate. If you go with 12k front and 8k rear you will be dialing in understeer to the car.

You really have two options here. Properly do the suspension, wheels, and tires for DD and road days....or just looks with no function.

It was a great post.. My intention is not to completely wreck the suspension.. I was just lookin for an aggresive fitment/look, while stickin by the performance aspect.. Ill continue to look into better coils..

Hows HKS Hypermax ?

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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 01:51 AM
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i've had bc's on a different car, they can go low, they do what you want. never had a problem, people hate it people love it. valving is not great but again they get the job done. stiff ride, i was running 12/14 rates, its actually not bad. (this wasnt on an evo tho).
if your going to slam your car, honestly you wont be performing good at the track. there goes 150 bucks for a track day, not including the worn tires your going to have with the alignment issue and possible blown tire. if your just looking for the slammed look, the BC's will do, as for performing slammed at the track, good luck.
theres no point in getting higher end coilovers if your just going to slam it, you basically decreased the stroke of the piston in the coilovers leaving little room for dampening/rebound.
i've read and found evo's are better with stiffer rears and generally 80% rear value for the front. ie 8f/10r
happy modding.
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by sujinX
i've had bc's on a different car, they can go low, they do what you want. never had a problem, people hate it people love it. valving is not great but again they get the job done. stiff ride, i was running 12/14 rates, its actually not bad. (this wasnt on an evo tho).
if your going to slam your car, honestly you wont be performing good at the track. there goes 150 bucks for a track day, not including the worn tires your going to have with the alignment issue and possible blown tire. if your just looking for the slammed look, the BC's will do, as for performing slammed at the track, good luck.
theres no point in getting higher end coilovers if your just going to slam it, you basically decreased the stroke of the piston in the coilovers leaving little room for dampening/rebound.
i've read and found evo's are better with stiffer rears and generally 80% rear value for the front. ie 8f/10r
happy modding.
Great addition.. Thank you..
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 04:01 AM
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There are more than just the JDM brands. Search for GTWorx or Robi KW3s, Ohlins, AST...

Used they are about the same as those other brands new. And they are better.
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by TXEvo8chris
My intention is not to completely wreck the suspension.. I was just lookin for an aggresive fitment/look, while stickin by the performance aspect.. Ill continue to look into better coils..
Sticking to performance means a min of ~$2000 new / $1000 used. People spend so much on a turbo or wheels, well if you want to turn fast you need tires then suspension.

My suggestion, start with some Swift-R's and bilsteins. Since you want a lower ride I'd suggest these over gtworks. If you are actually racing in series like auto-x or time trials then step up to the AST 4100's. KW's are kinda ****ty but better than the pure **** and you wont really have any clue what to do with 2 knobs at this point anyways; AST > KW.

The problem with slammin your car is two fold. Roll center drops farther than your CG, increasing roll moment and overall roll. Roll center kit helps with this. Also, bump travel is critical and at least half your suspension travel needs to be in bump. We dont have a ton of travel and dual height adjustable strut bodies become a bit important for this.
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