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Old Jan 7, 2012 | 02:43 PM
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That would straiten the wheel, that is how you set toe, so if you move one side in and the other out your toe will remain the same and your steering wheel angle will change.
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Old Jan 7, 2012 | 05:39 PM
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well let me add my 0.02, if it was improperly installed with the steering wheel, heres a simple way to check stop have your steering wheel up right straight. Turn the wheel to end remember where it stopped. Bring it back to middle, turn wheel opposite way till stop. The wheel at stop either side should be even, or else your steering wheel was not installed right, if not installed right one side will turn more/less then the other shop. Aligning it would be like putting a band aid on a broken limb that broke through the skin, its covering an issue. If thats the case, take it back. If not, best bet is to shake your front end down, use 2 people. One shakes at 12 and 6 o clock for play in tire/wheel, other person looks underneath and watches for movement at the spindle/hub. Then shake tire at 3 o clock and 9 o clock position, other person watches tie rods, watch for any kind of popping or excessive movement. No matter what dont use eye ball method for adjusting toe, flat pavement, and a kit is needed if you go cheap in that matter. If your toe is out .5-1.0, might not be enough to visually see, till your on secondary rubber with cords almost showing in a little bit of time.
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by dastallion951
well let me add my 0.02, if it was improperly installed with the steering wheel, heres a simple way to check stop have your steering wheel up right straight. Turn the wheel to end remember where it stopped. Bring it back to middle, turn wheel opposite way till stop. The wheel at stop either side should be even, or else your steering wheel was not installed right, if not installed right one side will turn more/less then the other shop. Aligning it would be like putting a band aid on a broken limb that broke through the skin, its covering an issue. If thats the case, take it back. If not, best bet is to shake your front end down, use 2 people. One shakes at 12 and 6 o clock for play in tire/wheel, other person looks underneath and watches for movement at the spindle/hub. Then shake tire at 3 o clock and 9 o clock position, other person watches tie rods, watch for any kind of popping or excessive movement. No matter what dont use eye ball method for adjusting toe, flat pavement, and a kit is needed if you go cheap in that matter. If your toe is out .5-1.0, might not be enough to visually see, till your on secondary rubber with cords almost showing in a little bit of time.
I know for certain it's the steering wheel being installed improperly because the car was brand new at the time and and it drove perfect afte they installed the new s. wheel except it was slightly off by like a notch but the dealer told me it only goes in one way. Is this true for newer steering wheels?
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 10:24 PM
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If they said it only goes on one way its probably true, maybe they hit a curb with your car or something when you had it in for service.
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 07:28 PM
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not necessarily, usually what happens during the steering wheel install, is that steering shaft couldve been maybe a tooth or two off when installed, usually for example a similar issue is when your rack and pinion is replaced, and theres a tool that holds your steering wheel in place, because the shaft could move and if it does, could cause uneven end to end turning. Your complainin about it to the wrong people, call them tell them to check it again, explain your concerns, usually shops have no problem rechecking there work.
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 12:36 AM
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It's been awhile, long while, if they weren't gonna do it then for sure they aren't gonna touch it now... It drives perfect when the steering wheel was replaced crooked.
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 04:47 PM
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Step 1- check and see if you can just reposition the wheel, If not go to step 2
Step 2 - adjust with tie rod method I told you about earlier

Done.
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Old Jan 14, 2012 | 10:04 PM
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Based on what I've read in this thread, I'm not sure this belongs in the "Advanced" section of the forum.

Originally Posted by sna08
Yeah the steering wheel is straight when I drive straight right... Problem is steering is super sensitive at the same time turns super funny... Pulls weird...
The EVO is well known for having excellent steering response, so isn't "super sensitive" normal? As for "turns super funny" and "pull weird," well, you'll have to be a bit more descriptive than that.

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This is what my wheels seem to look like when steering wheel is straight

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It's not angled that much but you get the point... I want to straighten the right wheel back.... Is it possible?
I assume that's a view from above, looking down on the car? If so, that means the right front wheel has toe in, which can be fixed with an alignment.

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I know for certain it's the steering wheel being installed improperly because the car was brand new at the time and and it drove perfect afte they installed the new s. wheel except it was slightly off by like a notch but the dealer told me it only goes in one way.
Based on what you've described (or not described), I'm not sure you should be certain about anything. dastallion's suggestion will take you all of about 30sec and might prove whether the steering wheel is actually installed off center or not.

Or you might consider starting a thread with a more descriptive subject to get some steering gurus in here. I imagine there's someone on this board who has removed their steering wheel and can tell you whether it will only go on in one orientation, or if it's splined such that it can be installed in any orientation. Unfortunately, that someone might not open a thread with a subject like "Help! My alignment is all off!".

Originally Posted by gotpsi?
Step 1- check and see if you can just reposition the wheel, If not go to step 2
Step 2 - adjust with tie rod method I told you about earlier

Done.
I think he'd be better off replacing step 2 with "get an alignment." He (apparently) hasn't done so since early 2007, so it's not too surprising that the alignment isn't spot on.

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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 08:56 PM
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I know what an evo should feel like. I drove it before I replaced the steering wheel. My brother had an evo that we compared too and mines was definitely "off". Turning the wheel in one direction requires a bit more strength than the other, though if I let my hands off while center, it'll stay straight... I know it's suppose to be sensitive but it seems its more sensitive towards the right.
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Old Jan 20, 2012 | 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by dastallion951
well let me add my 0.02, if it was improperly installed with the steering wheel, heres a simple way to check stop have your steering wheel up right straight. Turn the wheel to end remember where it stopped. Bring it back to middle, turn wheel opposite way till stop. The wheel at stop either side should be even, or else your steering wheel was not installed right, if not installed right one side will turn more/less then the other shop. Aligning it would be like putting a band aid on a broken limb that broke through the skin, its covering an issue. If thats the case, take it back. If not, best bet is to shake your front end down, use 2 people. One shakes at 12 and 6 o clock for play in tire/wheel, other person looks underneath and watches for movement at the spindle/hub. Then shake tire at 3 o clock and 9 o clock position, other person watches tie rods, watch for any kind of popping or excessive movement. No matter what dont use eye ball method for adjusting toe, flat pavement, and a kit is needed if you go cheap in that matter. If your toe is out .5-1.0, might not be enough to visually see, till your on secondary rubber with cords almost showing in a little bit of time.

sorry for the thread jack but i did this test tonight and my steering wheel turns about 20 degrees more to the left than to the right. and i noticed my passenger tire is rubbing on the inside of the wheel well .when im in full lock.
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by jdm_evo9
sorry for the thread jack but i did this test tonight and my steering wheel turns about 20 degrees more to the left than to the right. and i noticed my passenger tire is rubbing on the inside of the wheel well .when im in full lock.
Did you have your steering wheel replaced?
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 01:38 PM
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Well I bought my car previous crashed so im sure they air bad deployed so im guessing it has
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 06:34 PM
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A crash can cause a car to have all kinds of strange issues like what you are having, it could be anything
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 08:07 PM
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im going to put my .02 cents in and take this from someone who does alignments on a daily bases. If the problem started right after alignment was done, than the shop must of not performed the alignment correctly.

Even if the steering wheel was put back together 1 or 2 splines off it shouldn't have thrown the alignment off the way your describing it except for the steering wheel being slightly off centered. While doing the alignment, it would of been a very minimum adjustment to be made on each side of the toe to adjust it back, so i doubt the problem lies where the steering wheel was positioned.


I agree with what people have been replying stating that they "band-aid" the job by trying to suck you into doing an alignment, theres no doubt about it. There should of been no reason to do an alignment if the car drove fine and all you needed was the wheel replaced.

if the shop knew what they were doing, and they were careful and centered the wheels prior to removal of the wheel, you wouldn't have an off centered steering wheel

I would recommend you to go to a reputable alignment shop to get the car checked out and ask for a print out.

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Old Feb 23, 2012 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by dastallion951
well let me add my 0.02, if it was improperly installed with the steering wheel, heres a simple way to check stop have your steering wheel up right straight. Turn the wheel to end remember where it stopped. Bring it back to middle, turn wheel opposite way till stop. The wheel at stop either side should be even, or else your steering wheel was not installed right, if not installed right one side will turn more/less then the other shop. Aligning it would be like putting a band aid on a broken limb that broke through the skin, its covering an issue. If thats the case, take it back. If not, best bet is to shake your front end down, use 2 people. One shakes at 12 and 6 o clock for play in tire/wheel, other person looks underneath and watches for movement at the spindle/hub. Then shake tire at 3 o clock and 9 o clock position, other person watches tie rods, watch for any kind of popping or excessive movement. No matter what dont use eye ball method for adjusting toe, flat pavement, and a kit is needed if you go cheap in that matter. If your toe is out .5-1.0, might not be enough to visually see, till your on secondary rubber with cords almost showing in a little bit of time.
+1 !

If your steering rack isn't centered (wheel off by one spline), you will never have a perfect alignment.
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