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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 11:16 AM
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6" Coilovers for track

Hey guys as I'm completeing my project, I need some coilovers for the track (road course). The spring must be 6" or less in length or the preload on my spring must be set to 6". This is because I will be running a 18x10 rim w/ 285x30 tire. I would be down to spend 2500 on some coils, but I sit in a hard spot for finances. Race day is coming up way to fast, I need to find something to get this done.

I would like to be around the $1000-1600 mark for coils that will fit my application. The car is my weekend warrior that I will drive on the street but I want to gear the car for track(road course). Hense, I don't want to be paying for slicks every oil change which is why I am setting my car to run on 285's.

I am currently looking at these coils but I don't know if the springs are the correct dimensions for my needs:

This is quoted right out of post #29:
"k ppl, HSD offered to increase the rear spring rate with proper matched damping

so front will be 9K, and rear will be 11k.....What do u guys think???? the guys agreed that this setup would be really perfect for an AutoX car. "

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...ilovers-2.html

http://www.hsdcoilovers.com/specific...ght-adjustment

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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 11:31 AM
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Why cut yourself sort with low grade suspension for racing?

Used Ohlins.

New GTWorx KW3. In your price range. And quality setup. (I race on KWs).
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Smike
Why cut yourself sort with low grade suspension for racing?

Used Ohlins.

New GTWorx KW3. In your price range. And quality setup. (I race on KWs).

Do you know of any deals going on for the KWs right now?

I'd love some Ohlins but I'm scared if I bought used ones they wouldn't be in great shape.
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 12:12 PM
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Cost used + rebuild is in your price range.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...ics-carol.html

Best person to ask is Myles or Andrew on the phone.
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 12:34 PM
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Don't sell yourself short. If you're serious about racing, get serious equipment. If you cheap out, it will either break / wear out quicker, or won't do what you truly need. Suspension is expensive for a reason. IMO, it's the most important part of a good track car.
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by migs647
Don't sell yourself short. If you're serious about racing, get serious equipment. If you cheap out, it will either break / wear out quicker, or won't do what you truly need. Suspension is expensive for a reason. IMO, it's the most important part of a good track car.

My dilema right now is, I have megan coil overs that came with the car. They were installed incorrectly and they lowered them by lowering the spring purch rather than setting preload and lowering the shock body. The car bounces all over the place and I can't adjust the preload like I need to so I will damage my rims if I install them. I also can't order and install my centric spacers for my rims until I either buy new parts for my crappy megans or do something about it.

This is something I was thinking I could essentially do:
  • Buy coilovers, but just the strut and other assembly parts
  • Keep the megan pillow ball camber plates
  • Swap my front and back megan springs with each other so the rates will be closer to correct (if this is possible)
  • Set the preload on my megans
  • Drive my car untill I can afford to buy new springs. I have unlimited life time free alignments when ever I want.
Is that ^ something that is possible?
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Smike
Why cut yourself sort with low grade suspension for racing?

Used Ohlins.

New GTWorx KW3. In your price range. And quality setup. (I race on KWs).

I couldn't find any of the GTWork in my price rang. Do you have links?
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 02:09 PM
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We don't have anything in that price range in terms of coilovers. We've got a new option coming up that would work but it is still a little over $2k.

I have no experience with the HSD coilovers.

You could get new springs for your megans and properly set them up, but you could also put that money towards something else.

I'm not sure what to suggest in that price range for a car geared toward the track running 285s. Get narrower wheels/tires and put that money into suspension? Those are really wide and bad place to start if your price range is limited.

I would look used if you're absolutely set on that price range, but that's just my opinion.

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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Graphic
I couldn't find any of the GTWork in my price rang. Do you have links?
Call up GTworx and ask about AST 4100s. Best bang for your buck with a quality damper.

As far body height vs spring perch height, there's two ways of doing it but either way your spring rate is what it is. How you adjust will really depend on how much spring rate you run and if you have enough bump travel. I could tell you if I actually looked at your car, but no one can tell you over the internet unless they had experience with your shocks and rates.

I can tell you my preferred method is to set the body height based on fully compressed around the same time the wheel is hitting things then adjust height with the spring perch height.
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Dallas J
Call up GTworx and ask about AST 4100s. Best bang for your buck with a quality damper.

As far body height vs spring perch height, there's two ways of doing it but either way your spring rate is what it is. How you adjust will really depend on how much spring rate you run and if you have enough bump travel. I could tell you if I actually looked at your car, but no one can tell you over the internet unless they had experience with your shocks and rates.

I can tell you my preferred method is to set the body height based on fully compressed around the same time the wheel is hitting things then adjust height with the spring perch height.

I called them this morning, but the guy that answered the phone said his boss was out of town and the only thing they had up there were in the 2400+ range.
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 02:52 PM
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is this gonna be your full track car?
daily? + some track?
you going full out serious with the tracking?
casual tracking?

depending on the answer, you dont need a 3000$ coilover
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is this gonna be your full track car?
daily? + some track?
you going full out serious with the tracking?
casual tracking?

depending on the answer, you dont need a 3000$ coilover

I will drive the car on the street and hit the track between 1-2 times a month. 1 road course, 1 auto x. I want to gear my car towards the track even though I will drive it on the road. I do have other vehicles I can drive. Setting my car up for daily driving isn't my intention if that helps? I'm not opposed to some kind of compromise though. At this point I'm just looking for the best setup I can get with in my price range.

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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 09:03 PM
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What kind of tires? I can tell you now that anything like an NT01 in 285 width will generate more load than 9k/11k spring rates can handle. Not to mention Hoosiers.

Call GTworx and get some properly sprung and valved AST 4100's.
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 10:17 PM
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AST 4100's, Ohlin DFV's, or JRZ RS1's.

I vote Ohlins with Hyperco springs
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Graphic
Hey guys as I'm completeing my project, I need some coilovers for the track (road course). The spring must be 6" or less in length or the preload on my spring must be set to 6". This is because I will be running a 18x10 rim w/ 285x30 tire. I would be down to spend 2500 on some coils, but I sit in a hard spot for finances. Race day is coming up way to fast, I need to find something to get this done.

I would like to be around the $1000-1600 mark for coils that will fit my application. The car is my weekend warrior that I will drive on the street but I want to gear the car for track(road course). Hense, I don't want to be paying for slicks every oil change which is why I am setting my car to run on 285's.

I am currently looking at these coils but I don't know if the springs are the correct dimensions for my needs:

This is quoted right out of post #29:
"k ppl, HSD offered to increase the rear spring rate with proper matched damping

so front will be 9K, and rear will be 11k.....What do u guys think???? the guys agreed that this setup would be really perfect for an AutoX car. "

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...ilovers-2.html

http://www.hsdcoilovers.com/specific...ght-adjustment
Many have some pretty good suggestions, and if you can find something that fits your budget awesome. In terms of evaluating if HSD is for you. There is a wealth of forum talk across the pond in the UK about EVO 7 8 9 running HSD for AutoX.
Here in north america HSD is new. But slowly more and more over here are getting a chance to see what they are made of. You have already read previous threads on what HSD is all about. In regards to the Spring Rate you could run the standard setup or opt for a 9/9 or 9 / 11k setup which I think has a specifically valved rear for that increase. ezzey asked if its for track + street. If so stick with the standard rates or the 9/9 at most. You will be impressed with the dampening adjustment / response for the track.

Either way... do a google search, and see what you come up with. But those who run HSD on here will probably give you positive feedback. I have them, and love them.
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