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Old Mar 19, 2015 | 02:20 PM
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Best specs for a meaty flush setup.

After looking through several threads and seeing many pictures where people aren't listing their specs, mixed answers, etc. I figured i would just ask the question.

I come from the z crowd where we can throw pretty large wheels/tires on the stock body and be fine. eg; i ran 18x9.5/10.5 +15 with 255/40 & 275/40 and only needed my rear fenders rolled.

I am looking for a similar flush setup for my recently acquired 06 Evo IX. Exterior/body is completely stock. I'm going to do coilovers/wheels at the same time so just wanting to get down exactly the best specs i need.

I will be lowered just enough to leave a finger/two finger gap between tire and fender (not wanting to slam it), and would like to avoid stretched tires.

I assumed 18x9.5 +15 all around with 255/35 would work but after some research i dont think it will without some work. Not really wanting to pull the fenders. I'm okay with rolling.

So what wheel and tire specs am i looking at for just a flush/meaty setup that will not require pulling and excessive negative camber?


Also while were here, when i lower the car, will i need aftermarket camber/control arms all around? rear only? front only? neither since i'm not going to slam the car?

Sorry for the noob questions! Thanks in advance
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Old Mar 19, 2015 | 02:22 PM
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whoops, mods please move to this thread:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...s-go-here.html
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Old Mar 19, 2015 | 05:01 PM
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Z wells are certainly more cavernous than the EVO wells by design & age difference of the cars

W/out pulling the fenders youre looking at something like: 18 x 9 (best bet) or 9.5 +35 w/a 255/40 (std camber w/a flat rear roll)
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Old Mar 19, 2015 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by MinusPrevious
Z wells are certainly more cavernous than the EVO wells by design & age difference of the cars

W/out pulling the fenders youre looking at something like: 18 x 9 (best bet) or 9.5 +35 w/a 255/40 (std camber w/a flat rear roll)
thank you!

question though, factory tire size is 235/45/17 which is 25.33" tall.

a 255/40/18 is 26.03" tall.

would a 255/35 be better? (25.03" tall)

or would the 255/40 be better because longer gearing will help?
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Old Mar 19, 2015 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Bmurray350z
thank you!

question though, factory tire size is 235/45/17 which is 25.33" tall.

a 255/40/18 is 26.03" tall.

would a 255/35 be better? (25.03" tall)

or would the 255/40 be better because longer gearing will help?
For sure the 40's series 18's are large. Calc shows -2.7% speedo error. But you gotta love the look of the 40's. 35's give you a +1.2% error.

I run a large circumference meaty tire 275/40/17's & my speedo error is only -1.2%

One of my EVO friends ran the 40's on the 18" tire & it really gives that meaty look

Your call
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Old Mar 19, 2015 | 06:50 PM
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Gotcha. I too love the meaty look but the 35 series would keep speedo closer to what it should be, plus would give me more clearance when i lower.. while giving me same amount of contact patch.

now to hunt for some 18x9.5 +35ish wheels that clear brembos without need of huge spacers...
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Old Mar 20, 2015 | 01:34 PM
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I have 18x9.5 +35 konig miligrams on my car with 265/35r18 bridgestone re11's. Rear fender rolled flat, with a slight pull that typically just happens when using a fender roller. I run a 10mm spacer up front to clear the coilover. Could get away with a 5mm, but the 10mm helps the tire fill the fender which looks better. The wheel clears the brembos without spacers.
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Old Mar 20, 2015 | 09:55 PM
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Thank you for the info. Would a 18x9.5 say... +25 clear the struts while eliminating the need for spacers at the same time you think?
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Old Mar 21, 2015 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Bmurray350z
Thank you for the info. Would a 18x9.5 say... +25 clear the struts while eliminating the need for spacers at the same time you think?
There is no one offset that clears the brakes. Its all dependent on spoke design in the wheel area called the X-factor

Anyway, +33 to +35 is generally thought of as the offset that hits the middle of the wheel well. +25 is considered very aggressive & most always needs more than a fender roll
(again, this is based on zero rub & running stockish camber. Stance guys will say it all fits w/out pulling the fender but their setups run super stretched, out of spec tires & run out of spec camber & they still rub)
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Old Mar 23, 2015 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Bmurray
Thank you for the info. Would a 18x9.5 say... +25 clear the struts while eliminating the need for spacers at the same time you think?


+25 won't fit in the rear unless you run a smaller tire (255 or 245) and do some decent rear fender work. You could run +25 in the front, and +35 in the back, but then you can't rotate your tires. A quality 10mm slip on spacers with quality extended studs is 100% acceptable for fitment.
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Old Mar 24, 2015 | 08:21 PM
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i am running 18x9.5 +35 with 255/35/18 hankooks, they fit pretty fat compared to other tires i have run, i think my car is probably a little lower than you plan on going and i have almost no issues at all, my front and rear fenders are both rolled flat but the rears are just for peace of mind, the fronts would rub a tiny bit at full lock in any kind of articulation such as pulling into a driveway or turning while going over a speed bump, since i flattened the edge on the front fenders there is no more rubbing at all even when cornering at speed IE on an auto-x course. *sometimes* i still catch the fender liner a little bit if i am turning full-lock into a very steep driveway.

i see there were already some replies but hope my little bit of experience with that could help, i think with anything over +30 offset youre going to be in the clear without much more than just rolling the lips flat.


also - i see you asked about aftermarket camber adjustments/control arms - my car has all stock alignment adjustments except for front camber plates and i had no problem achieving an in-spec alignment, i run my front camber slightly out of spec (more than factory negative camber) just out of personal preference but my alignment is otherwise exactly set up to factory recommendations.

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Old Apr 2, 2015 | 05:40 PM
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I run 18x9.5 +38 RPF-1 with 245 all around but 255 should work. Required a simple roll of the fenders in the rear and I did the fender mod in the front but don't believe it is necessary to fit this setup although I needed a 20mm spacer to clear the brembos up front and suggest a 5mm in rear to flush it out nicely.
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Old Apr 2, 2015 | 08:51 PM
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Man.. This guy is running 18x9.5 +24 with no rolled fenders or spacers at all. He's lowered a good bit, on 235/40 (i know it's a skinnier tire - but still can't believe he didn't need any rolling or anything)
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Old Apr 3, 2015 | 08:11 AM
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I run a 18x8.5 ET30 with 245/40/18 Dunlop D03G and I had rubbing issues on the rear, had the rear arches rolled back slightly and all is good, fronts never experienced any issues, car is sitting on Tein Monoflex.
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