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Old Sep 27, 2016, 04:17 PM
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HKS vs KW vs Tein street use

With all the threads involving this topic I want to clarify that this thread was opened to assist me decide in my situation. I live on a pothole infested island (Malta) where the streets are not that good. We don't have any tracks here so suspension will be used for road use mostly fast road use. Budget is around 1500 euros. Car is Evo VII and is currently running on Tein lowering springs with stock shocks running like a go-cart, horribly.

I was between Tein Flex Z, HKS Hypermax IV GT and KW V3. What do you recommend all in all?

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Old Sep 27, 2016, 04:58 PM
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The springs that get the best reviews from the true suspension guys on this forum are Swift & GTWorx

Back in the day before moving over to coilovers I ran the Eibach Sport springs which worked very well
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Get used set of Ohlins R&T and use
7/7, or 7/8, or 8/8, at most 8/9 spring rates.

Tein are valved for smoother Japanese roads, kw short of clubsport will be same.

I drive hard roads you describe, so I get what you are after.
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Originally Posted by alpinaturbo
Get used set of Ohlins R&T and use
7/7, or 7/8, or 8/8, at most 8/9 spring rates.

Tein are valved for smoother Japanese roads, kw short of clubsport will be same.

I drive hard roads you describe, so I get what you are after.

Unfortunately, I wouldn't have my mind at rest buying used Ohlins, even though I know they're the best out there but I'm not confident in buying such parts in a used condition. But thanks for the heads up.
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Originally Posted by MinusPrevious
The springs that get the best reviews from the true suspension guys on this forum are Swift & GTWorx

Back in the day before moving over to coilovers I ran the Eibach Sport springs which worked very well
I have experienced swift progressive springs in an VIII with the Eibach/Bilstein combo, and alhough I have to say it's very comfy, I thought it was too much comfy with some body roll for my liking. One has to consider that currently I have a crazy stiff setup which I feel is very unsafe apart from very unpleasant to drive. Having experienced the old and discontinued TEIN control master - type flex, which many feel TEIN are stiff for bumpy roads, I had already felt it was extremely more comfortable than mine. So anything equal or over and above that which still falls under my budget is acceptable.
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I would recommend a spring/strut combo... like MinusPrevious said, Bilsteins wth GTWorx or Swifts. Bilsteins/GTWorx for a bit more ground clearance for the bad roads. Swifts sit a bit lower than GTWorx so if you want a bit lower look then get those. For the price you are going to pay and long term reliability, a set of Bilstein/GTWorx is far better option. Ohlins while no doubt are better than any of the other mentioned coils, are far more expensive. Even used... and if they are used you will have to get them revalved at some point like any other coil out there.

You can buy 3 sets of Billy/GTWorx for the price of Ohlins R&T

If coils are something you MUST have, then look at Fortune Autos... MinusPrevious I believe runs them on his car. I am planning on buying a set of their 500 series after doing some research, I feel they are the best bang for the buck coil out there.

good luck and post a pic of that JDM 7

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...ics-carol.html

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Here it is
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That is a nice pic Saved it for my work screen saver. Looks like changing the springs to a lesser rate will help your situation
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Have loads of photos of it. In fact I made a video out of them including the condition of the under of the car, engine bay etc. Here it is if you want to take a look at it:

facebook.com/nuggetinu/videos/10153952075786705
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Anyone has these coils or can say something about them?
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Originally Posted by nuggetinu
Anyone has these coils or can say something about them?
If I were to go back to coils, I would have no problem using the Eibach Pro kit part no. # 6041.140 (1" drop front & rear)

The spring rate is very modest

http://eibach.com/america/en/perform...ication-lookup
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Originally Posted by MinusPrevious
If I were to go back to coils, I would have no problem using the Eibach Pro kit part no. # 6041.140 (1" drop front & rear)

The spring rate is very modest

http://eibach.com/america/en/perform...ication-lookup
And which coils?
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Originally Posted by nuggetinu
And which coils?
Part no. was noted as Eibach Pro Kit 6041.140 & is likely a US kit no. The euro guys have noted this kit here: E10-60-005-01-22

Please double check if interested
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Originally Posted by MinusPrevious
Part no. was noted as Eibach Pro Kit 6041.140 & is likely a US kit no. The euro guys have noted this kit here: E10-60-005-01-22

Please double check if interested
They are coming up as a spring kit. In the meantime I found these used Ohlins for 1550 euros. What do you think?
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Originally Posted by nuggetinu
They are coming up as a spring kit. In the meantime I found these used Ohlins for 1550 euros. What do you think?
Sorry, I thought you were looking for springs vs a true coil over. In your case, if you dont track the EvO you would be better off just replacing the springs

Regarding those Ohlins, find out what the spring rates are. If the rates are not too high, that might be a good choice They look like their in good shape!


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