getting an alignment what should i set it at??
#18
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Edit: Just so everyone understands, this thread exemplifies why no one posts here.
#20
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It's nice to have someone knowledgeable help. Robert Fuller advised me on setting mine up. It sure made a difference.
#21
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OK, I'll bite. We all know that Mr.Fuller has ripped off numerous individuals, that he's gone so far as to shoot calk into people's bushings without telling them, in lieu of an applicable setup, and that his own springs have arguably the worst spring rates aimed at this platform; though, their drop is mild enough to conform with the chassis geometry and no rake. Forgetting all that, by advising you, did you go to a shop and have him work on your suspension over a period of many hours, selecting parts known to work for a very specific application, or did you read a post on a forum?
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#22
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OK, I'll bite. We all know that Mr.Fuller has ripped off numerous individuals, that he's gone so far as to shoot calk into people's bushings without telling them, in lieu of an applicable setup, and that his own springs have arguably the worst spring rates aimed at this platform; though, their drop is mild enough to conform this the chassis geometry and no rake. Forgetting all that, by advising you, did you go to a shop and have him work on your suspension over a period of many hours, selecting parts known to work for a very specific application, or did you read a post on a forum?
Anyway, We had a lengthy conversation over the phone. I gave him info on the car and he gave me advice based on what I had to work with. I have his RSB, some bits I made myself, and followed his suggestions for spring rates and alignment specs.
The car was noticeably better driving and I've been enjoying it since.
I'm unaware of any of those problems you mention, but it was probably before I decided to delve into getting serious about how the car handles (?). My guess, seeing how I no longer see him really involved with Evos, any more.
My conversation with him was two or three years ago, if I remember right. I was impressed with how much stuff he knew and took into consideration. Just my experience, though.
#24
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I posted, because I had time. I don't talk about Evos often and it's not I'll be here much longer. Notice how there's no one else posting? By last count there are three people here. Who are you trying to convince of the righteousness of your ways?
Edit: I'm currently watching a series of videos about dead shopping malls. Not really a depressing thing; more like change. The most interesting thing about it are the people who work in the few stores left standing. This, among the lack of shoppers, lack of infrastructure in some cases. The employees are convinced that someone, someday will come back.
Edit: I'm currently watching a series of videos about dead shopping malls. Not really a depressing thing; more like change. The most interesting thing about it are the people who work in the few stores left standing. This, among the lack of shoppers, lack of infrastructure in some cases. The employees are convinced that someone, someday will come back.
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#25
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I posted, because I had time. I don't talk about Evos often and it's not I'll be here much longer. Notice how there's no one else posting? By last count there are three people here. Who are you trying to convince of the righteousness of your ways?
Edit: I'm currently watching a series of videos about dead shopping malls. Not really a depressing thing; more like change. The most interesting thing about it are the people who work in the few stores left standing. This, among the lack of shoppers, lack of infrastructure in some cases. The employees are convinced that someone, someday will come back.
Edit: I'm currently watching a series of videos about dead shopping malls. Not really a depressing thing; more like change. The most interesting thing about it are the people who work in the few stores left standing. This, among the lack of shoppers, lack of infrastructure in some cases. The employees are convinced that someone, someday will come back.
#26
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This is the problem. You guys see this as some sort of a contest. It's a forum-wide affliction. Institutionalized. It's not about helping other Evo owners or imparting information; it's about justifying your own rationale. There's a new person here, someone who hasn't been around for a while. Do you try to have a conversation about a mutually interesting topic? No. It's still all about justifying your mods - logic, math, physics, and genuine honesty aside. Guess what? No one is interested in that. Look at the thread views. No one is reading this. People still want to talk about Evos; they just don't want to do it here. You guys want to argue about dumb crap. No one else does. Look around. Once I leave just the two of you will be left. Then what?
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#28
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You tried to create a culture of ignorance and conformity. Over time, driven by commercial motives and personal insecurities, you've purged this forum of its intellectual foundation. Once that happened, all others departed, too. This something you never understood. The ricers may have complained about being insulted, but they came here specifically to hear from those same folks. Once the expertise was gone, it was only a matter of time. Evo owners weren't interested in exchanging yucks with you on TBR, nor did the community respect non-Evo owning mods. Now you're the only ones left.
This was the only venue for Evolution discussion. Not anymore. The public has voted. All this was easy to predict; I first posted about it in 2007. Human nature always finds a way. People loathe tyranny. We've always loathed you.
[I'm not talking to you, Kaj.]
This was the only venue for Evolution discussion. Not anymore. The public has voted. All this was easy to predict; I first posted about it in 2007. Human nature always finds a way. People loathe tyranny. We've always loathed you.
[I'm not talking to you, Kaj.]
#29
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You tried to create a culture of ignorance and conformity. Over time, driven by commercial motives and personal insecurities, you've purged this forum of its intellectual foundation. Once that happened, all others departed, too. This something you never understood. The ricers may have complained about being insulted, but they came here specifically to hear from those same folks. Once the expertise was gone, it was only a matter of time. Evo owners weren't interested in exchanging yucks with you on TBR, nor did the community respect non-Evo owning mods. Now you're the only ones left.
This was the only venue for Evolution discussion. Not anymore. The public has voted. All this was easy to predict; I first posted about it in 2007. Human nature always finds a way. People loathe tyranny. We've always loathed you.
[I'm not talking to you, Kaj.]
This was the only venue for Evolution discussion. Not anymore. The public has voted. All this was easy to predict; I first posted about it in 2007. Human nature always finds a way. People loathe tyranny. We've always loathed you.
[I'm not talking to you, Kaj.]
#30
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That's about how my car sits, Kaj.